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Does Mickey deserve any credit for where we are headed?

Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by chalmationnation
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:16 pm
Legitimate question; cornerstone pieces seem to be in place with Coach, QB, and Kicker. This draft class has been impressive. Some credit seems in order no?
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Posted by Neilfish
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:18 pm to chalmationnation
Nope
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Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:18 pm to chalmationnation
Sure

I’ve given him a lot of shite for where we’ve been. Only fair to give him a little love for the signs of life we are showing

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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:18 pm to chalmationnation
quote:
Does Mickey deserve any credit


On here? Lmao! The question is stupid if you’re being honest. Answer is obvious.
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Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:51 pm to chalmationnation
Absolutely not
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Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:53 pm to chalmationnation
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Does Mickey deserve any credit


We could win the SB next year and it would still be..."we won in spite of loomis"
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Posted by BigTigerJoe
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:56 pm to chalmationnation
He got the right coach who seems to be buying the correct groceries and cooking the fans a delicious meal.

Fans going to eat next season some full helpings.

Next season, we all get dessert.
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Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:14 pm to chalmationnation
He absolutely deserves credit but most of the posters here will never give it to him.
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Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:17 pm to chalmationnation
Loomis does what the HC wants. I don't think he over rules what the HC wants in players.
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Posted by LSUpelsSaints
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:19 pm to Chrome
I’d give him credit for Moore

I’d have to imagine it was Moore who mostly had the hand in picking Shough.
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Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:21 pm to chalmationnation
See, here is what is bothering me. Gayle forced Loomis to fire DA. If it were strictly on Loomis, Dennis would still be coaching this team.
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Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:23 pm to LSUpelsSaints
Do you also give him credit for Payton?

He should definitely get credit for those 2 coaching hires, and also the blame for Allen.

And he does have input into the draft and free agency, but he collaborates with his coaches and the rest of the staff, so he does also deserve some credit and blame for roster moves as well.
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Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:25 pm to Sauce Castieaux
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Gayle forced Loomis to fire DA
during the season.

He was still going to fire him, but let him finish out the year. Gayle said not good enough, which I agreed with her on that.

Hiring Allen in the first place was not good enough and was by far the biggest mistake Loomis has ever made.
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Posted by Gavin Elster
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:28 pm to chalmationnation
I think the players, through Gayle forced this by convincing her to fire Allen. But now that the rebuild is on, Loomis is actually making some good moves. The 2025 draft has been outstanding. Hopefully the 2026 draft continues that trend.
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:30 pm to chalmationnation
Of course.

Hired Moore, drafted Shough.
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Posted by Sunnyvale
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:34 pm to chalmationnation
If I remember correctly, no coach worth anything wanted this job or the aggervation that came with New Orleans - The Fans, The Franchise, the money grubbing female owner, aging roster, salary cap and the endless infractinos against the organization by the NFL.


Moore, was a young man, in his prime, trying to get his frist chacne.
You can say Mickey Loomis, made the "right decision", but in reality The Saints Organization was desperate and New Orleans was the last place on anyones radar.

So yeah, he desrves some credit.
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Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:35 pm to bonethug0180
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He was still going to fire him, but let him finish out the year. Gayle said not good enough, which I agreed with her on that.


Was he though? Because the way he talks about Dennis im not sure he would ever be willing on his own accord. He genuinely seem to think he was part of the solution


Just like I need to see more before I jumped on the Loomis hate train, I also need to see a bit more from him before im ready to credit his moves. The last few years did some serious damage to his credibility.
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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:39 pm to Sunnyvale
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If I remember correctly, no coach worth anything wanted this job or the aggervation that came with New Orleans - The Fans, The Franchise, the money grubbing female owner, aging roster, salary cap and the endless infractinos against the organization by the NFL. Moore, was a young man, in his prime, trying to get his frist chacne. You can say Mickey Loomis, made the "right decision", but in reality The Saints Organization was desperate and New Orleans was the last place on anyones radar. So yeah, he desrves some credit.


Dumb frickers for $500 Alex
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Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:40 pm to chalmationnation
No
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Posted by SaintTigerPel
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:45 pm to chalmationnation
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Legitimate question; cornerstone pieces seem to be in place with Coach, QB, and Kicker. This draft class has been impressive. Some credit seems in order no?


He also made some nice trades lately:

Marshon Lattimore and a 5th for a 3,4 and 6
Luke Fortner for Khalen Saunders
Rashid Shaheed for a 4th and 5th
A 4th and 7th for Devaughn Vele



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