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5 more years until the Super League?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:53 pm
Long post….
Everyone hates current college football system.
Seems logical that a FOOTBALL ONLY Super League, of some kind, will emerge after the current TV contract.
BIG10 and SEC are tired of sharing football money with the also-rans of college football.
Bowls are useless money grabs for TV.
I like Pate’s idea of having bowls as kick off games in week 1 or even week 0. OR get rid of them.
Have no idea how they make money from empty stadiums. Orlando has THREE bowl games!
The big question is how many outsiders get in?
Obviously Notre Dame. Clemson, Miami, Texas Tech, BYU?
Fringe teams are going to freak out. Kansas State? Arizona State?
Maybe the 5 year window will allow the powers to be, to get it right or at least close. Who knows.
Thoughts?
Everyone hates current college football system.
Seems logical that a FOOTBALL ONLY Super League, of some kind, will emerge after the current TV contract.
BIG10 and SEC are tired of sharing football money with the also-rans of college football.
Bowls are useless money grabs for TV.
I like Pate’s idea of having bowls as kick off games in week 1 or even week 0. OR get rid of them.
Have no idea how they make money from empty stadiums. Orlando has THREE bowl games!
The big question is how many outsiders get in?
Obviously Notre Dame. Clemson, Miami, Texas Tech, BYU?
Fringe teams are going to freak out. Kansas State? Arizona State?
Maybe the 5 year window will allow the powers to be, to get it right or at least close. Who knows.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:57 pm to mikedatyger
quote:
also-rands
I’ve about had it with the macanally’s
too
ETA: seems like what’s driving all of this is to create participation awards, the old system of only the strong survive was too much of a monopoly I guess
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:16 pm to mikedatyger
super league sounds awful. What a terrible way to respond to the problems in the sport.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:44 pm to EastWestConnection
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super league sounds awful
I agree. Just have seen more articles about it lately.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:46 pm to mikedatyger
Nobody wants super leagues and the low tier bowls are all huge ratings draws.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:48 pm to Riverside
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the low tier bowls are all huge ratings draws.
maybe in the old days, need to see data on that now
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:50 pm to Riverside
Ratings draws? Would have to see those numbers. Seats are empty. Sponsors bail from year to year. Not sure it can be sustained.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:52 pm to mikedatyger
Yeah. You should look at them. Ticket sales aren’t what keep bowls going and this has been the case for the past 15-20 years.
Edit:
Here you go.
Last year’s numbers. This is why there are bowl games and why they aren’t going away.
LINK
Edit:
Here you go.
Last year’s numbers. This is why there are bowl games and why they aren’t going away.
LINK
quote:
The 2024-25 college football bowl season on ESPN platforms saw remarkable growth, drawing significant increases in viewership across key demographics. The 33 non-College Football Playoff bowls averaged 2.7 million viewers, marking a 14 percent year-over-year increase and the largest audience since the 2019-20 season. Gains were particularly notable among viewers aged 18-49, with a 21 percent rise in that demographic. Fourteen of the 33 bowls achieved at least a five-year high in viewership, with five reaching ten-year highs. Notably, the Alamo Bowl attracted 8 million viewers, making it the most-watched non-CFP/New Year’s Six bowl on any network in five years. Meanwhile, the ReliaQuest Bowl drew 6.5 million viewers, earning the distinction of cable’s most-watched non-CFP bowl in nine years.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:55 pm to 777Tiger
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Are there finally too many bowl games? The answer to that is generally no if the television audience for even the least-watched game is big enough for ESPN or another network to want to pay for them. The supply of teams remains steady, too, even though some bowls had to scramble to fill spots more than usual. For every team declining an invitation, there were others willing to replace them. Mississippi State, Appalachian State and Rice all had 5-7 records but accepted bowl invitations to make up for the teams that opted out.
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For example, ESPN Events owned the Bahamas Bowl in the Bahamas, which drew only 4,610 fans in person for its last game on Jan. 4, 2025, when Buffalo beat Liberty 26-7. That was the lowest attendance in Bahamas Bowl history, but it still got an average audience on ESPN of 1.14 million, according to Nielsen.
LINK
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:16 pm to 777Tiger
quote:
also-rands
quote:
I’ve about had it with the macanally’s too

Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:19 pm to mikedatyger
Yes, it’s already begun
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:25 pm to Madking
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Yes, it’s already begun
Agreed. It’s anyone’s guess on the timeline, but the pieces have been moving into place for years (the past 10-15 years at minimum) and it’s obvious that a power conference league separated from the NCAA is the endgame. It just sucks we have to go through seasons of G5/G6 whatever they are getting annihilated in the CFP.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:28 pm to Gnash
We’ll hear news on some sort of buyout/takeover within the next year or two. There’s a group already planning to do this.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:34 pm to Riverside
Remind me who was in the Reliaquest bowl last year? Mist watched. On playoff bowl?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:36 pm to Madking
Anyone scoffing at the geographic alignment of the SEC and Big 10 expansion should prepare themselves because they are about to become the equivalent of the NFC and AFC.
I’m not a fan of it but there’s no stopping it
I’m not a fan of it but there’s no stopping it
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:39 pm to Lsuray70443
Apparently it was Iowa-Vandy.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:42 pm to Gnash
I preferred college football but that’s never coming back. Going to a 60 team, pro style league will probably be better than what we have currently though.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:50 pm to Riverside
more than likely because sports bars, people having cookouts, etc., just have it on, but I guess that still counts

Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:52 pm to mikedatyger
yeah I have too.
I think college football has always been a sport where people at least kind of hate the system, just look at all the split titles over the years. I would hate to see it degraded further and see them segregate it so it's just the same ten or twenty teams competing in their own league. I would honestly hope with playoff and NIL that the playing field would be more level. That doesnt seem to be happening though.
I think college football has always been a sport where people at least kind of hate the system, just look at all the split titles over the years. I would hate to see it degraded further and see them segregate it so it's just the same ten or twenty teams competing in their own league. I would honestly hope with playoff and NIL that the playing field would be more level. That doesnt seem to be happening though.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:09 pm to mikedatyger
Been saying it since implosion 35-40 teams breakaway whennTV deal is done. Highest bidder get those teams and commissioner Nicky with their own set of rules. Salary cap, scheduling and advertising revenue. It’s done.
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