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Indie Awards make a mockery of themselves, "take back" Clair Obscur's awards because of AI

Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:25 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62753 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:25 am
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After Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 basically swept every category at The Game Awards and topped the lists on every other random site’s game awards, it came out that the developers had used AI. Said François Meurisse, the COO & Production Director of Sandfall Interactive:

“We use some AI, but not much. The key is that we were very clear about what we wanted to do and what to invest in. And, of course, technology has allowed us to do things that were unthinkable a short time ago.”


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to prove a point, the Indie Game Awards took back Clair Obscur: Expedition 33’s two awards: Game of the Year and Debut Game.


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The developers allegedly patching out any AI stuff was not enough.


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With Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 disqualified, the Indie Game Awards went to:

Game of the Year: Blue Prince
Debut Game: We’re Closed

Ironically, Blue Prince used generative AI for its art assets as well. This includes small stuff like various background pieces, nothing core. But it still used it.

In fact, Blue Prince developers didn’t even claim this AI was “patched out.” This means that Blue Prince still has AI assets in the final product when it was being judged by the performative and self-righteous Indie Game Awards.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26926 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:31 am to
the virtue signaling is out of control
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62753 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:34 am to
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the virtue signaling is out of control


AI puts indie devs who can't pay for a massive staff on a level playing field with large companies. That the "Indie Game Awards" doesn't understand this makes them a complete joke in my view. No indie game developer who wants to make the next Clair Obscur is going to care about this award moving forward. They've essentially made themselves irrelevant.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103149 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:02 am to
Most indie game awards are heavily political anyway IIRC.

They tend to vote on who they feel needs the boost in sales more than quality, which is part of what Gamergate was about.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41056 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:02 pm to
They have an award to give because of technical innovation which cost people jobs at the time of said innovations. At one time, companies had MASSIVE steno pools. Gone. Computers killed tons of jobs and made companies more efficient. Progress moves on. People adapt. Simple fact. AI isn't going away. Virtue signaling won't change that.

I have zero problem with AI in games as long as the quality is good which in most cases it isn't at the moment. That will change.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62753 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:05 pm to
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I have zero problem with AI in games as long as the quality is good which in most cases it isn't at the moment. That will change.


It's a tool like any other. As long as they aren't overrelying on it, games will be better for it.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41056 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:14 pm to
Plenty of low budget games that would benefit from AI voice acting instead of reading a wall of text or even worse when they partially voice the wall of text.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69835 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 6:28 pm to
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It's a tool like any other.


This.

People are so reactionary.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 7:47 pm to
X Rebirth could have definitely used it. Worst voice acting I have ever heard
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:27 pm to
It gets better

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62753 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:07 am to
It's a real stretch to call UE Marketplace items "generative AI."
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:09 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:43 am to
It is a witch hunt. And it is exacerbated by the games media. They are funded by AAA studios,

The only AI that was in-game was a few textures that were patched out 5 days after release
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94799 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:08 pm to
Super dumb. I get how some folks might have wanted KCD 2, but there is no doubting COE33 is a modern, instant classic and literally nobody GAF about AI in games.

AI was practically invented for video games. In the 70s.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34475 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:23 pm to
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AI puts indie devs who can't pay for a massive staff on a level playing field with large companies. That the "Indie Game Awards" doesn't understand this makes them a complete joke in my view. No indie game developer who wants to make the next Clair Obscur is going to care about this award moving forward. They've essentially made themselves irrelevant.


AI has a couple of years of stormy weather it has to survive; at the moment it costs way more money than it generates. It'll be interesting to see if the bubble bursts and AI comes crashing to a halt for all but the most useful iterations, or if it powers through and takes over a lot of creative endeavors.

Regarding the assistance it gives to indie devs, I see what you're saying, but at the same time if an indie company can do it so will big companies (just look at what happened with the formula used in Moneyball). If AI survives then all you're really looking at is AI taking over a lot of these jobs.

I don't see the appeal of the future James Horner being replaced by MusicGPT.
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