George R R Martin is a spineless coward

I don’t know if he’s a spineless coward. I just don’t think he knows how to finish it.

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I think Decisions was saying he is afraid to upset book readers and folks on that ASOIF board with an ending as disappointing as the show. If that was the ending he outlined to the show runners, fine… finish it and fill in the blanks the show wouldn’t and couldn’t deliver.

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Deflect deflect deflect. He'll say anything to make it seem like he's not just a lazy POS.

He's written five very good books, but he's rich now and cares more about shows and comic cons than he does the books.

I used to think that he'd at least finish WOW, but I'm to the point where he's not even going to finish it, much less ADOS. In all of his comments now he just seems bitter and that's not a very good sign for an old, fat, lazy writer that needs to write 2000 more pages in a series.

What I think he doesn't realize is that the majority of the fans wouldn't care if the ending was a disappointment. It certainly would be better than the show ending and as long as it's better than that, nobody would care. A mediocre ending to a overall great story is better than no ending at all. I've read plenty of good fantasy that had a relatively disppointing ending, but that is certainly better than no ending.

Sadly he's kind of ruined his legacy as one of the better fantasy writers of our time and made even worse by the fact that he is selfishly going to take his work with him to the grave and not let someone else finish it.

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I think Decisions was saying he is afraid to upset book readers and folks on that ASOIF board with an ending as disappointing as the show.

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Oh I gotcha. Maybe the show adapted his ending and now he doesn’t have a Plan B. But I always assumed he never had the ending mapped out and doesn’t know where to go with it. And he’s too lazy and unmotivated to work it out. And too proud to let someone else do it. Wouldn’t it be neat if he got Abercrombie to finish it, the way Sanderson finished wheel of time?

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Immediately Bran is not the rightful king because Rob's unborn is still alive in the books and whatshername is still alive held by the ugly midland people.

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frick those northern shits. I believe in Young Griff. Once he takes Storms End he's going to have a hell of a foothold to mount a campaign.

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Immediately Bran is not the rightful king

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Practically speaking, this wouldn't matter to me. Wouldn't you want your ruler to be able to see into the past/future and have essentially "all" knowledge? That would be a good ruler...potentially.

Having said that, it just doesn't feel right for this story.

I believe he and Rothfuss both became victims of their success in the context of their stories. They are so popular that EVERY possible way to end the story has been thought out and theorized to death.

I think this has led these two arse hats to simply not be able to finish because they can't "surprise" the audience with a great ending because its all been thought out and could fall flat.

Coward is a good word for both of them is this is true.

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Don't forget how far the show diverted from the books

Immediately Bran is not the rightful king

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Dude, Bran was always be the King in the books

it's why he became the 3 eyed raven, its also why he is the first POV chapter in the first book and has that entire convoluted arc where he goes from being a broken boy to the guy that can see everything from history and reveal Jon as TPTWP

HBO executed(very poorly) the ending George gave them. That’s 100% fact. There are statements from 2008-09 of George saying that Benioff and Weiss know the ending.

The real issue is the amount of POVs, characters, stories he has to deal with. There’s another quote by him, I think when he was writing Feast, that he had 19 POVs and really needed to be at 8-9.

I encourage everyone to read the So Spake Martin archives at Westeros.org. Some of his quotes from the mid 90’s are fascinating.

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He was right to admit that he’s closer to Sam than Tyrion.

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I mean I always thought Sam was a Martin self-insert

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HBO executed(very poorly) the ending George gave them. That’s 100% fact. There are statements from 2008-09 of George saying that Benioff and Weiss know the ending.

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Yep, most likely scenario is that what we saw in the show is the books, just executed terribly and way too fast, with some changes to get there (and obviously characters left out).

And once George saw the terrible response to it by the audience, he was like, oh crap, maybe it sucks. And now he doesn't know how to finish the series, and never will because he's a pansy who would rather leave it unfinished than suffer the criticism for it sucking.

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you told me Bran becomes king and Dany loses her shite, I’d totally buy it.

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Bran becoming King is an ending that doesn't really make logical sense from the Kingdoms perspective, he will never have children so it's automatically another succession issue/war once he dies. I could see Martin having planned on that, it's just not super logical.

Dany losing her shite and having to be killed by Jon makes plenty of sense though, as you said. As long as it was handled as a natural progression in the books people would be fine with it.