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Brian Kelly vs Marcus Freeman
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:14 am
One thing that really bugs me about this comparison, that I rarely see brought up is the blatant disregard of logic and circumstances. When BK left ND, NIL was a new/unknown concept and it was a 4 team playoff. Now, your wealthy donor can straight up buy players and it is a 12 team playoff. ND is a shoe in to make the 12 team playoff every year and everyone talks them up non stop. BK would’ve been in a 12 team playoff for the last 5 or 6 years he coached there. ND alumni are also heavily invested and football and have deep pockets, it’s no surprise AT ALL that they can field better teams now than when BK was there. And then the next talking point, “o well ND beat Georgia and made the natty final”. OMG. Sure they beat Georgia, whose 2 year starting QB got injured in their conference championship game. Everybody loves to ignore that. The playoff committee didn’t think FSU could even qualify for the playoff when their starting QB got hurt, but yea we’ll just ignore Georgias QB getting hurt cuz he wasn’t that good. He only threw for 4,000 and 3,500 yds in his 2 starting years. I’m sure them throwing an underclassmen who had never started a big game into the biggest game of their season didn’t matter at all. It’s ridiculous. Who’s else did they beat? A bad Indiana team at home and a classic underachieving Penn state. Comparing the 2 is really like a fight where 1 guy has a hand tied behind his back and saying hey look that 2 armed guy is better. BK had ND in the national championship game in his 3rd season too, without NIL.
Now I don’t care about BK, and I agree it was probably time for him to go. But don’t go around and say Marcus Freeman looks like a great replacement. The guy is clearly overrated and gets credit for losing to good teams and beating bad teams.
Now I don’t care about BK, and I agree it was probably time for him to go. But don’t go around and say Marcus Freeman looks like a great replacement. The guy is clearly overrated and gets credit for losing to good teams and beating bad teams.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:15 am to theliontamer
BK sucking here has made me think that Freeman ain’t that good of a coach
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:17 am to theliontamer
Get to the point. From our perspective, BK is a fraud and a loser. Forget ancient history.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:20 am to Sun God
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BK sucking here has made me think that Freeman ain’t that good of a coach
One got blown out by A&M with a 5yr senior QB, a mercenary Secondary, his 4th year into the program and the other one lost by 1 point.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:31 am to jpainter6174
They both had similar results at ND
Freeman lost the first two games of the year and had bad losses his first 3 seasons at ND
Freeman might end up winning a ton of championships. I’m wrong all the time
Freeman lost the first two games of the year and had bad losses his first 3 seasons at ND
Freeman might end up winning a ton of championships. I’m wrong all the time
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:32 am to theliontamer
Are y’all are still upset that about people saying that Freeman is a better coach than BK? Brian Kelly was once a great coach, now he’s not. Who cares
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am to theliontamer
Freeman is 10x more likable. That I know.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am to LSBoosie
Aren’t you the guy that thinks sports agents are extremely trustworthy folks
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:34 am to SulphursFinest
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Freeman is 10x more likable. That I know.
I bet he’s willing to actually talk to recruits. Apparently they had to make an appointment with BK.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:34 am to Sun God
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Aren’t you the guy that thinks sports agents are extremely trustworthy folks
When did I say that?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:42 am to theliontamer
Freeman was able to beat USC and A&M last year, BK 0-2
This year Feeeman lost by 1 point to A&M because of a horrible officiating call while BK's team got ran out of the stadium
Freeman definitely had some hiccups against below average teams, not unexpected for a guy making his HC debut but I still have to concede that point. NIU, Marshall, Stanford, etc were all pretty head scratching. But for better or worse he has his team infinitely more prepared to play in big games (frankly more than BK has ever shown at any job) and his team can actually play offense this year. And it's been enough time where you can't say it's because Freeman took over a better situation, we're comparing years 3 and 4.
This year Feeeman lost by 1 point to A&M because of a horrible officiating call while BK's team got ran out of the stadium
Freeman definitely had some hiccups against below average teams, not unexpected for a guy making his HC debut but I still have to concede that point. NIU, Marshall, Stanford, etc were all pretty head scratching. But for better or worse he has his team infinitely more prepared to play in big games (frankly more than BK has ever shown at any job) and his team can actually play offense this year. And it's been enough time where you can't say it's because Freeman took over a better situation, we're comparing years 3 and 4.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:04 pm to Sun God
I don’t see the word trustworthy? Can you post something that shows where I said that?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:04 pm to LSBoosie
Yeah I figured you would go that route 
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:06 pm to how333
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BK is a fraud
he's a fricking thief
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:09 pm to Sun God
I mean you’re the one that made the claim
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:11 pm to Sun God
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BK sucking here has made me think that Freeman ain’t that good of a coach
One got their team to the playoff.
One got fired 3.5 years later.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:14 pm to Sun God
Freeman has his program trending in the right direction imo vs kelly.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:19 pm to idlewatcher
ND made the playoffs twice under BK in harder circumstances 
Posted on 10/31/25 at 12:20 pm to theliontamer
As a guy that continuously defended Kelly's record at Notre Dame in comparison to Freeman's record at Notre Dame on this board, we no longer have to worry about this comparison as Brian Kelly is no longer the LSU coach and we no longer have to defend him to make ourselves feel better.
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