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Will the bubble ever pop on guaranteed coaches contracts?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:01 pm
Probably not, as long as there are rich people who don't mind shelling out millions.
What a crazy world we live in.
One of the poorest states in the country, inflation out the arse, economy on the brink of collapse and some dude getting paid $10 million a year to coach football with almost zero repercussions based on performance.
I know this is an age old argument and their jobs are not our jobs and what they do is much harder to replicate than the average middle class worker, but it's obscene right along with the salaries of CEOs, etc.
I bet fricking ChatGPT is a better gameday coach than Kelly.
What a crazy world we live in.
One of the poorest states in the country, inflation out the arse, economy on the brink of collapse and some dude getting paid $10 million a year to coach football with almost zero repercussions based on performance.
I know this is an age old argument and their jobs are not our jobs and what they do is much harder to replicate than the average middle class worker, but it's obscene right along with the salaries of CEOs, etc.
I bet fricking ChatGPT is a better gameday coach than Kelly.
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:04 pm to ghost2most
if schools stopped hiring scott woodward there would be a lot less of these 10 year giant buyout contracts.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:05 pm to ghost2most
No. Because look at this fan base. A big chunk wants Kiffin, for example.
He's already making $9M per year. How do you get a guy making that much to jump? You guarantee his salary.
He's already making $9M per year. How do you get a guy making that much to jump? You guarantee his salary.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:07 pm to ghost2most
Schools should tell coaches they will not hire them if Jimmy Sexton is their agent. Good on him for doing whatever he can to help his clients, but from a fan/school perspective he needs to be stopped.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:08 pm to ghost2most
Blame also falls on Sexton
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:09 pm to ghost2most
I’ve always said coaches should get paid with incentives. Have a low base salary and if you win “X” amount of games you get paid ????. If you make playoffs you get more, win national championship you get more.
Following year starts off at base salary again with zero buyout promised. That way a coach will have the fire to want to win verses the want to get fired and get paid millions.
Following year starts off at base salary again with zero buyout promised. That way a coach will have the fire to want to win verses the want to get fired and get paid millions.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:09 pm to ghost2most
If you want to get a hot coach, this is what you do.
But handling the hiring of Kelly as if we were hiring Nick Saban was dumb.He was like the third or fourth option.
It is almost like LSU's thinking was, "if we spend a shite load of money on any coach, that coach will become a champion."
But handling the hiring of Kelly as if we were hiring Nick Saban was dumb.He was like the third or fourth option.
It is almost like LSU's thinking was, "if we spend a shite load of money on any coach, that coach will become a champion."
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:13 pm to ghost2most
universities have to eventually wise up, but none want to draw the line in the sand. The little brother schools are desperate to win so they'll throw stupid amounts at people and the big schools all want to go big game hunting and reset the market each time.
The lie coaches used to tell was that they needed a min. of 4 years on deals for recruiting purposes but that shite no longer flies because its a revolving door for players now, then Woodward made 10 year fricking deals the trend.
LSU has proven multiple coaches with different styles and approaches can win. Bring in a young, hungry coach thats cheap to get rid if he fails. Roster rebuilds don't take as long with the portal so its really not as big of a set back to hit the reset button. Its much better than being a few years into a 10 year deal and realizing its not working but the buyout is far too much so you're stuck.
The lie coaches used to tell was that they needed a min. of 4 years on deals for recruiting purposes but that shite no longer flies because its a revolving door for players now, then Woodward made 10 year fricking deals the trend.
LSU has proven multiple coaches with different styles and approaches can win. Bring in a young, hungry coach thats cheap to get rid if he fails. Roster rebuilds don't take as long with the portal so its really not as big of a set back to hit the reset button. Its much better than being a few years into a 10 year deal and realizing its not working but the buyout is far too much so you're stuck.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:15 pm to ghost2most
The bubble will only burst when a bluebood hires someone on the cheap and then has success (with the help of NIL resources).
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:24 pm to ghost2most
This is something that I have wondered about as well and think that as long as it’s tax deductible by wealthy jock sniffers it will continue.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:26 pm to ghost2most
LSU may be the reason this happens
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:29 pm to ghost2most
You need the AD’d to come together and agree on no more fully guaranteed 10 year contracts.
If not, you’re severely handicapping yourself in getting a proven coach.
Contracts need to be more incentive based.
I do think you’ll see changes in new hire contracts going forward.
A lot of these deals were done before revenue sharing became a thing.
If not, you’re severely handicapping yourself in getting a proven coach.
Contracts need to be more incentive based.
I do think you’ll see changes in new hire contracts going forward.
A lot of these deals were done before revenue sharing became a thing.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:40 pm to ghost2most
quote:
Will the bubble ever pop on guaranteed coaches contracts?
I think you’ll see the market shift on these enormous buyouts.
Universities/boosters are still figuring out NIL / Collectives. These massive buyouts are from a time before anyone thought about NiL / transfer portal actually becoming a reality.
I believe you’ll see a shift from these buyouts. For example: market price on a coach is $9m. Team will pay $10m per yr and potential $13m that year with bonus incentives. But the base is $10m. The buyout is a stated amount of $10-$15m if terminated early. Why? These boosters know they need to feed the collective $20m per year for roster management and aren’t going to keep paying $30-50m buyouts. Thats financially unstable.
Take Penn st situation or LSU if they fire Kelly this year.
$51m buyout
Staff buyout $$ / another $15-$20m
New coach and staff $$
Collective $20m every year.
You see a slow shift from these 90% guarantee buyouts.
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