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China had to know that Trump would retaliate
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:59 pm
I agree that Trump had to act and there was an expected dip in the market.
But China and other countries that invest here would expect the dip as well
Seems like a loophole for countries to control our stock market and create buying opportunities.
(Bit of a devil’s advocate here, not sure what the fix is)
But China and other countries that invest here would expect the dip as well
Seems like a loophole for countries to control our stock market and create buying opportunities.
(Bit of a devil’s advocate here, not sure what the fix is)
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:41 pm to hawgfaninc
Everybody has to puff up at least once or they will get raped by Trump. It's all performative. Won't last long.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 7:48 pm to Captain Rumbeard
China is on the verge of a market meltdown. Better that you study a little before putting your foot in your mouth.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:04 pm to bluedragon
People are always saying that. Also with no reason or explanation how or why. What makes you say they are on the verge of collapse?
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:34 pm to PrayingMantis
Housing is on a downward trend. Overbuilt market to the point of unoccupied buildings are disintegrating. Talking to the tune of over 600, 000plus vacancies. The attempt to swing the market failed.
Entire high rise, vacant, shops and support vacant. Malls vacant. No one leaving the farm to enter the market.
They overbuilt anticipating growth in manufacturing. This means the state investment to provide electricity, water and waste goes unused. Power plants coming online and the power has no place to go. The largest dam in the world is nearing completion…..you need to watch the China Market forecasts. This has been ongoing for months now. So much for one couple, one child, maybe we need to send our immigrant invasion to China to help them recover.
Entire high rise, vacant, shops and support vacant. Malls vacant. No one leaving the farm to enter the market.
They overbuilt anticipating growth in manufacturing. This means the state investment to provide electricity, water and waste goes unused. Power plants coming online and the power has no place to go. The largest dam in the world is nearing completion…..you need to watch the China Market forecasts. This has been ongoing for months now. So much for one couple, one child, maybe we need to send our immigrant invasion to China to help them recover.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 10:39 pm to bluedragon
Never said they weren't and not sure how that negates what I said.
This is a negotiation. We've established this isn't going to be a kinetic war yet so all avenues are being explored for policy projections and economic wins.
That's a fact.
They are both bluffing at this point. Feeling for the spot where it gets closer. The pressure helps move it along.
This is a negotiation. We've established this isn't going to be a kinetic war yet so all avenues are being explored for policy projections and economic wins.
That's a fact.
They are both bluffing at this point. Feeling for the spot where it gets closer. The pressure helps move it along.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 5:26 am to PrayingMantis
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People are always saying that. Also with no reason or explanation how or why. What makes you say they are on the verge of collapse?
Estimates are 90 million unoccupied units. Many are actually not completed and people are paying mortgages on them. It dwarfs the 2008 issues in the states.
They have huge overcapacity issues in manufacturing which has driven down prices and they are in a deflation mode for two years now (similar to Japan's lost decades).
Govt debt is huge and local govt debt is even worse.
US and EU are putting more and more trade tariffs on goods forcing even lower prices to continue to sell.
Huge youth unemployment AND an aging population.
The one glimmer of hope they have is their tech sector and Trump just stuck a fork in it by prohibiting high end chips...........hence their rare earth response.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 5:46 am to trinidadtiger
are you talking about china or commercial real estate in america?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 6:07 am to texas tortilla
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are you talking about china or commercial real estate in america?
I was thinking the same. Reminds me when TVA started all those nuclear plant projects only to scrap some of them leaving TVA in major debt.
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