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Yieldmax and the NAV
Posted on 10/5/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/5/25 at 1:47 pm
I know we have talked YM's etfs, but I wanted to update the conversation.
I own a lot of YM ETFs. I plan on making a decision by the end of the year on them after researching and market movement.
The first thing I researched was the NAV of each and here is what I found.
The nav of these crashed hard when the market somewhat collapsed reaching it's low point in April.
Since that time, they have all (all that I can find) have been trending up. examples:
TSLY. Low in April is 7.03. Right now it is at 9.63, a 2.6 increase.
NVDY. Low in April, 13.47. Right now it's at 16.85, a 3.38 increase
CONY. Low in April, 6.47. Right now 7.01, an increase of .54
ULTY has been steady with slight increase here and there. It's low was 5,42 at the beginning of April. After this ex-date, it is still up .04 cents. So since April 8th, til now. Steady.
No opinions given, but requested.
NAV history of any stock or ETF
I own a lot of YM ETFs. I plan on making a decision by the end of the year on them after researching and market movement.
The first thing I researched was the NAV of each and here is what I found.
The nav of these crashed hard when the market somewhat collapsed reaching it's low point in April.
Since that time, they have all (all that I can find) have been trending up. examples:
TSLY. Low in April is 7.03. Right now it is at 9.63, a 2.6 increase.
NVDY. Low in April, 13.47. Right now it's at 16.85, a 3.38 increase
CONY. Low in April, 6.47. Right now 7.01, an increase of .54
ULTY has been steady with slight increase here and there. It's low was 5,42 at the beginning of April. After this ex-date, it is still up .04 cents. So since April 8th, til now. Steady.
No opinions given, but requested.
NAV history of any stock or ETF
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Posted on 10/5/25 at 4:20 pm to BCreed1
The only one I own currently is GDXY.
MSTY soured my taste on them.
MSTY soured my taste on them.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 4:22 pm to BCreed1
I have a few of the weekly payers like ODTE, GPTY in my Roth IRA just to add to my balance because you can only add 7 or 8k a year. I know most of these yieldmax etfs are fool's gold but it sure is nice getting that boost every friday in my roth. 
This post was edited on 10/5/25 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/5/25 at 4:56 pm to BCreed1
If you’re starting in April, all of the underlying stocks have basically doubled, and people are trading that for a monthly $1 distribution while fretting when the impending reverse split will occur.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:16 pm to lsuconnman
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If you’re starting in April, all of the underlying stocks have basically doubled
Very close to.
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people are trading that for a monthly $1 distribution while fretting when the impending reverse split will occur.
I'm not following that... Can you explain that more?
This post was edited on 10/5/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:19 pm to BCreed1
I have UTLY. It changed its strategy to actually hold the underlying funds and it has a handful of holdings. I’m also in at a low DCA.
I sold MSTY after the last dividend payout and I’m not touching another YM fund. I didn’t lose money, but held for a year or so and only ended up about $20 after all the dividends.
Don’t want to load up on synthetic covered calls, don’t like focusing on an individual stock, and I don’t like the NAV decay when the market is ripping like it has been.
But that’s me, you do you friend.
I sold MSTY after the last dividend payout and I’m not touching another YM fund. I didn’t lose money, but held for a year or so and only ended up about $20 after all the dividends.
Don’t want to load up on synthetic covered calls, don’t like focusing on an individual stock, and I don’t like the NAV decay when the market is ripping like it has been.
But that’s me, you do you friend.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:23 pm to FLObserver
quote:
I have a few of the weekly payers like ODTE, GPTY in my Roth IRA just to add to my balance because you can only add 7 or 8k a year. I know most of these yieldmax etfs are fool's gold but it sure is nice getting that boost every friday in my roth.
I'm making over 2K per month. I have done the math on my purchase price vs the dividend and I'm not negative on anything, and up in all of them.
Example, I'm even in TSLY. Not happy about that, hope it continues to climb. But, I've also made 3K in dividends this year so far.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:30 pm to BCreed1
quote:my simple opinion is that you are trading long term growth for short term gain, while taking on risk. If you want short term gain just put the cash in money market and take zero risk
requested
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:31 pm to Suntiger
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Don’t want to load up on synthetic covered calls, don’t like focusing on an individual stock,
I sell covered calls weekly.
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I don’t like the NAV decay when the market is ripping like it has been.
I just went through them, and the nav since the first week in April has been going up.
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But that’s me, you do you friend.
I have met my 1st goal with YM. I have purchased all I am going to. It's on it's own now. Just the drip
I'm working on my second goal at this point. That is to recoup all of my initial investment in YM and then the investment is their money.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:35 pm to cgrand
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my simple opinion is that you are trading long term growth for short term gain
YM is a small % of my portfolio. My hope is that the nav continues to increase at least a little while I recoup my initial investment. Then It's there for one purpose. Weekly dividend for my wife to spend.
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If you want short term gain just put the cash in money market and take zero risk
I get that. And yes. That's a great idea. Once I recoup my initial investment, I will look into that
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:41 pm to BCreed1
quote:quote:
I don’t like the NAV decay when the market is ripping like it has been.
I just went through them, and the nav since the first week in April has been going up.
Good for you. NAV decay rate is real. Underlying stocks the synthetic options are on are up big time in that same period. Any correction is likely to tank those things. But like I said, you do you.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 5:43 pm to BCreed1
The way this year has been you can just throw darts at a board to pick winners, yet YM is selling products that routinely disclose 95-100% ROC. The people making a killing on YM are brokerages and management.
When they start releasing leveraged synthetics cc strategies for the degens it will be peak people watching season.
When they start releasing leveraged synthetics cc strategies for the degens it will be peak people watching season.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 7:14 pm to lsuconnman
quote:that seems likely
The people making a killing on YM are brokerages and management.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:32 pm to cgrand
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If you want short term gain just put the cash in money market and take zero risk
that is not what many of us do here. we get high paying dividends for another stream of income.
MM is not gonna do that.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The only one I own currently is GDXY.
MSTY soured my taste on them.
i bailed on all of em. glad i did. i am quite fine with XDTE, BITO and JEPQ.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:00 am to BCreed1
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I'm making over 2K per month.
I'm Jealous.
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I sold MSTY after the last dividend payout
Same i sold MSTY about 5 months ago. Own probably about 4 other similiar to this one but only make up a small portion of my Dividend portfolio . I have no problem dumping them if they turn into another MSTY.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 4:05 am
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:26 am to FLObserver
I am up on all YM ETF's except SMCY. I was up on them until SMCI had a weaker than expected ER. 
SMCI has had a bunch of good news in the last month. I am thinking the 11-5 ER will be a catalyst for both SMCI and SMCY.
SMCI has had a bunch of good news in the last month. I am thinking the 11-5 ER will be a catalyst for both SMCI and SMCY.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 12:51 pm to Fat Bastard
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i bailed on all of em. glad i did. i am quite fine with XDTE, BITO and JEPQ.
I took small positions in multiple income ETF's as an experiment with the goal being to spread my cash among multiple different providers and funds.
I'm also trying to hold more index type funds vs single stock based funds.
May get back into ULTY and hold GDXY as well as GPTY, but that's the only YieldMax funds I'll have.
My current watchlist is:
TSYY
YSPY
BITO
GDXY
XDTE
GPTY
HOOW
ULTY
WPAY
Some of these are probably repetitive in that they track the same underlying.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:quote:
i bailed on all of em. glad i did. i am quite fine with XDTE, BITO and JEPQ.
I took small positions in multiple income ETF's as an experiment with the goal being to spread my cash among multiple different providers and funds.
My covered call funds are spread out over about a dozen funds. SPYI, JEPQ, XDTE, DIVO, GPIQ, UTLY, BITO, QYLG, XYLD, IYRI, QDVO, etc.
There’s some overlap and some different expense ratios that I pay attention to. But I wanted to spread out the risk on those types of funds.
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