Started By
Message

I gained a lot of respect for BK

Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by crotiger0307
Utah
Member since Jan 2018
832 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:06 pm
when he cleaned house on the defensive side of the ball after the absolute waste of a national championship season in 2023.

Unfortunately, at this point even if he were to relieve Sloan and Davis of their duties it does not excuse the absolutely horrendous way the games are managed.. I can’t put into words how mind blowing it is to me that a coach with over 300 wins is worse at game management than even Ed Orgeron.

Granted, there are times where it seems Nuss tries to do too much at the LOS and it burns us. But again, that comes down to COACHING situational football and making sure the players on the field know what to do and when to do it.

It has gotten to Les Miles levels of ineptitude, and the only thing that could've been a redeeming quality for BK with only one side of the ball ever seeming to be competitive, has now become one of his worst flaws.
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
2801 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:09 pm to
You think that was his decision?

Without questions the powers that be came in and said every last one of them goes.

Kelly hired those morons in the first place
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5836 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:11 pm to
I ain’t reading all that. If you respect Brian, you need to reevaluate some life decisions.
Posted by crotiger0307
Utah
Member since Jan 2018
832 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:14 pm to
You can reply but not read and within that reply mention not reading and miss the entire point of the post.

Impressive.
Posted by Tarheel Tiger
Seven Lakes, NC
Member since Jan 2008
285 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:19 pm to
I think Kelly and staff are between a rock and hard place. Granted OL is atrocious and that is all on coaching not developing players. That being said, I think the real dilemma they face is how to deal with Nuss. He clearly is hurt, just looking at zip on balls this year vs. last. He has waited these years for this year, they gave him a lot of money to return, and now he sucks, due to injury. If you take him out and MVB plays, it doesn't look good for Nuss on draft stock, however, to me, keeping him in and not giving MVB the chance to see if his elusiveness could help compensate for poor OL play is throwing away this year with a championship level defense.

To me, you have to try to win this year and I think you need to give MVB a chance to see if he can help this year's team. If he doesn't, you go back to Nuss and have answered the question and thus any locker room angst that may or may not be present.

To a certain degree, the same dilemma is faced by Clemson staff with regard to Klubnick. He has regressed and they probably need to try back up but are trying to weigh how to deal with a Sr. who returned and now isn't delivering. If you pull him, you hurt his draft ability and coaches don't want to do that with someone that they were glad to have return and forego being drafted last year.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14209 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

It has gotten to Les Miles levels of ineptitude, and the only thing that could've been a redeeming quality for BK with only one side of the ball ever seeming to be competitive, has now become one of his worst flaws.


Pennywise on Defense (House) has mutated to Pennywise on Offense (Sloan) with an entire Staff full of Circus Clowns on Offense that can't effectively coach their position athletes.
Posted by crotiger0307
Utah
Member since Jan 2018
832 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:33 pm to
I keep seeing people state that a factor in keeping him as QB1 is the amount of money he was paid to return.. in the grand scheme of things, an 8-5 or even 9-4 LSU football team loses way more money than what they invested in Garrett Nussmeier as an individual.

I get not wanting to hurt his draft stock and the fact that his brother is a recruit, but at the end of the day BK’s job is to make sure LSU is winning football games, and unfortunately sometimes that requires uncomfortable adjustments.
Posted by Tarheel Tiger
Seven Lakes, NC
Member since Jan 2008
285 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:56 pm to
I agree with you. Listen, I have no idea if MVB is helpful, but man, we gotta do something different than we've been doing. Bye week may bring some opportunity to shake things up either staff wise or player wise but let's do something different. Geaux Tigers!
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1199 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:59 pm to
Miles teams could run the ball it didn’t get pushed around on the line of scrimmage
Posted by Pop
Member since Feb 2013
981 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:01 pm to
Reading is hard, especially for people with short attention spans. Condolences.
Posted by crotiger0307
Utah
Member since Jan 2018
832 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:05 pm to
The fact that it makes as much sense as it does drastically increases the probability that nothing at all will happen and we will just move along like it’s business as usual..

I sincerely believe Sloan would have issues even at the G5 level. Proof is in the pudding for each of these facets;
- He can’t develop (see Nuss regression)
- He can’t game plan or scheme against defenses in game, let alone in game prep via film
- Worst of all, his play-calling is nonsensical and has been for 2 years now
Posted by searcyagent
Little Rock
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:10 pm to
Polian, then House, and now Sloan. BK's inability to make good hires has been his undoing. And we're still #13 in the country, But man, if he keeps Sloan and we don't move the ball against South Carolina?
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4452 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:12 pm to
Oh, I’ve always had respect for BK. When he insisted that grad assistant climb the scaffold during a windstorm so they could make sure to get valuable practice film, I knew then he was a man of great resolve and principle.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:16 pm to
You don’t think Nuss being hurt is why he regressed? He isn’t being coached to throw into triple coverage.

Posted by OPOSPRPLGLD
Spring, Tx
Member since Jan 2015
121 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:24 pm to
Love his riding Muss this long but it clearly not working.

If his gets to being 100% healthy, put him back in.
Posted by Jtigerfan454
Member since Dec 2022
323 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:26 pm to
In the case of Nuss, much better to sit. Sitting because of injury won’t hurt his draft stock near as much as looking like total shite on the field.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2603 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:27 pm to
I’ve had faith in BK up until this week, actually. A lot of the things he’s been dealing with can be explained away pretty effectively. The Matt House debacle was a red flag, but the 2022 defense was good enough, so it’s hard to really know what happened.

If he replaces Nuss for South Carolina, it will restore some faith in him. That’s the most obvious fix to make right now. You have a QB who is no threat to run and almost just as inept at stretching the defense right now.

MVB at the very least, gives you a way to make the defense hesitate with his running ability. After what he showed vs SLU it looks like he may be able to make a defense respect the deep ball as well.

Kelly needs to win this year with this team. If he had Andrew Hatch as his backup QB, I’d say we’re stuck. But he doesn’t. He’s got a potential solution. If he hitches his wagon to Nuss and tanks the rest of the season, he’s going to lose the team. They’re not fricking stupid. No one’s gonna want to stick around for a coach who’s going to waste the draft potential of the receivers and tight ends he brought in just for fricking Nuss.


Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32376 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Polian, then House, and now Sloan. BK's inability to make good hires has been his undoing. And we're still #13 in the country, But man, if he keeps Sloan and we don't move the ball against South Carolina?


Polian was a horrendous special teams coach, but his portal work probably saved 22 from being a fricking disaster, especially on Defense. He would have been a tremendous hire as an analyst, especially with today’s more lax rules about on-field/off-field.

Denbrock had one of the best offenses in school history and was an out of the gate hire. I don’t think anyone can knock bringing Frank back and Hankton has at least been solid as a coach and recruiter. Sloan was also a great hire as a QB Coach. He’s just not OC material, the way Frank wasn’t a head coach.

I don’t think keeping Brad Davis was a bad decision back in 22 trying to get a staff together quickly, but it was time to move on from him and Sloan last offseason.

Baker and the entire defensive staff have been home runs. Kyle Williams seemed a bit risky (like Sloan), but he’s looking like a great fit who will stick for a few years, so far.

If there’s a problem, it’s that Kelly is inconsistent. He’s made some good solid hires and a few home run hires, but 2 really ones. He has not gotten this staff aligned on both sides of the ball yet. Whatever the reasons, THAT is the real issue.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29237 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:39 pm to
I'm glad someone else sees what I see with regard to game management.

We took WAAAAAYYYYYY to much time on our last scoring drive. There was no sense of urgency when we still needed two scores to win. He just stood there as usual with his arms folded waiting for someone else to do his job.

BTW - Nuss should have sat out the SELA game if one week is what he needs to get close to 100 percent. The Nuss we saw on Saturday is not gonna get it done if he's still hurt after playing at Ole Miss.

It's not all on Nuss. Most of our offensive issues start with the horrendous line play, but Nuss is not blameless by any stretch.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11853 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

If there’s a problem, it’s that Kelly is inconsistent. He’s made some good solid hires and a few home run hires, but he has not gotten this staff aligned on both sides of the ball yet. Whatever the reasons, THAT is the real issue.

This is my biggest problem with his tenure so far. There's always a glaring weakness holding the entire team back. Year 1, special teams with Polian was a joke. Year 2, defense is the worst in school history. Year 3, special teams blunders and inability to run the football. Year 4, continued inability to run the ball with an added deficit of passing woes. Seems like he will never have all 3 units pulling in the same direction.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram