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Brian Kelley may be a literal retard in addition to a world class prick

Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:39 pm


The analytics so to go for it which means you should expect to score more points than if you were to point. In addition, you have what you define as a world class defense, which give you even more of a reason to go for it

Dude is a fricking clown
Posted by herecomethetigers02
Member since Aug 2025
336 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:42 pm to
Analytics is for nerds and is a big reason Kiffin hasn't sniffed or will never win a natty.

Analytics is for snake oil salesmen. I never felt uncomfortable when Florida had the ball.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:43 pm to
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I never felt uncomfortable when Florida had the ball.


Then why would you punt when it’s was over 50% chance you could keep the ball?
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by herecomethetigers02
Member since Aug 2025
336 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:45 pm to


Mingo when Kelly doesn't use analytics to make decisions and uses his experience which we hired him for.

If we wanted a coach to make calls on analytics, we could've saved a lot of money
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:46 pm to
If you're making coaching decisions solely by analytics, we could all be head coaches. Just do whatever the computers say. Analytics cant account for flow of the game or make any judgements about team skill.

4th and one, go for it. Your odds are favorable


Ok but LSUs offense is shite. They probably should be able to run for a yard and convert the first. But they cant. Ever. With LSU's defense, punt and pin em deep. Chadwick was pinning 50 yarders inside the 5 all night. Analytics doesn't know that. Analytics doesn't know DJ Lagway is gonna throw to white jerseys all night.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by herecomethetigers02
Member since Aug 2025
336 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:46 pm to
because there was about a 50% chance Lag way would throw another pic
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:46 pm to
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Then why would you punt when it’s was over 50% chance you could keep the ball?


Because Brian Kelly's decisions led to a LSU double digit win.

You play to win the game!

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37114 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
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Mingo when Kelly doesn't use analytics to make decisions and uses his experience which we hired him for.


I’m fine if he doesn’t want to use the analytics. But his reasoning not only doesn’t make any sense, but it’s counterintuitive. If Florida can’t score anyway, why wouldn’t you just go for it and try to score yourself?
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:49 pm to
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because there was about a 50% chance Lag way would throw another pic


So 50% more reason to go for it if you’re going to get the ball back without giving up points anyway
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:53 pm to
Because getting into scoring position from midfield is much easier than from your own 15.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:54 pm to
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If Florida can’t score anyway, why wouldn’t you just go for it and try to score yourself?

Our best chance of scoring was Florida having the ball backed up.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:55 pm to
real recognize real, amarite?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37114 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Our best chance of scoring was Florida having the ball backed up.


The best chance of scoring is having the ball
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm to
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The analytics so to go for it which means you should expect to score more points than if you were to point


Do the analytics adjust for expected outcomes game to game? Or is it for all teams in all situations across the board? I'd imagine our odds of converting a 4th and 1 against the UF front are well below the mean.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:57 pm to
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If Florida can’t score anyway, why wouldn’t you just go for it and try to score yourself?

I'll give you an example. At the end of the 1st half, LSU had it 4th and 3 at the Florida 46. They punted. Florida gained 26 yards and their next drive before throwing a pick. Let's say LSU goes for it and doesn't get it. Florida would have only needed to gain 15-20 yards to get into FG range. But, instead, they started their drive on their own 14 after the LSU punt, threw a pick, which led to an LSU FG to end the half.

In the third quarter, LSU had it 4th and 1 at their own 49. They punted and pinned Florida down inside the 5. Florida then had a 28 yard drive before punting themselves. Had Florida started at midfield and gained 28 yards, they're in basically chip shot range for a FG.

LSU only had like 10 first downs the entire game and went 3 and out like 6 times. Playing field position and leaning on your defense in that game was the right choice.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:00 pm to
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I'll give you an example. At the end of the 1st half, LSU had it 4th and 3 at the Florida 46. They punted. Florida gained 26 yards and their next drive before throwing a pick. Let's say LSU goes for it and doesn't get it. Florida would have only needed to gain 15-20 yards to get into FG range. But, instead, they started their drive on their own 14 after the LSU punt, threw a pick, which led to an LSU FG to end the half.

In the third quarter, LSU had it 4th and 1 at their own 49. They punted and pinned Florida down inside the 5. Florida then had a 28 yard drive before punting themselves. Had Florida started at midfield and gained 28 yards, they're in basically chip shot range for a FG
.

So in both situations Florida scored 0 points, but LSU gave up good opportunities to score 14. Your examples give no good evidence punting was the right play. The pick, in fact, says you should have just gone for it either way if Florida was just going to give you the ball back

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LSU only had like 10 first downs the entire game and went 3 and out like 6 times.


More evidence you need to score points when you get in a realistic position to do so
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149491 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Analytics is for nerds and is a big reason Kiffin hasn't sniffed or will never win a natty.

Analytics is for snake oil salesmen
lmao
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
8007 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:01 pm to
God forbid a coach use his actual experience instead of a spreadsheet to make decisions.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37114 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:02 pm to
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God forbid a coach use his actual experience instead of a spreadsheet to make decisions.


A coach that consistently loses the big game?
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
8007 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:04 pm to
You're right. LSU should have hired you or some bum who lives under the I-10 overpass instead. Think of the money we could have saved.

For the record, between the 2 of you I'd choose the bum.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 1:06 pm
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