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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by popig
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:22 am
Traveling to National Parks and wanting to purchase nice beginner camera & telephoto lens. Budget around 1500-2500 , Cannon , Nikon , or something els? Thanks

Ordered Canon EOS R7 W/ 100-400 zoom lens
Thanks to all for help
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 7:52 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:43 am to
Only thing I can tell you is that the lens is way more important than the camera body.

The lower the F stop the better.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:43 am to
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:46 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:47 pm to
Get a Fujifilm XT5 with appropriate lenses.

its APS-C format but high MP, and incredible quality.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Budget around 1500-2500


With that budget one good option would be to buy a used Canon 7D with the Canon 100-400 mm lens. There used to be a lot of people shooting wildlife with that, me included. Now Canon has their R series mirrorless cameras out and they are better, but not 2x. I was just looking at some stuff I shot in Africa with my old 7D and the 100-400 lens and the quality doesn't seem much different from what I'm shooting now. It would be a great way to get into it at a much lower cost and see if it's something you enjoy.



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Only thing I can tell you is that the lens is way more important than the camera body.

The lower the F stop the better.


I used to think both and they are becoming less true IMO. A good camera body can do a lot of good for you with image stabilization and pushing the ISO up to what used to be crazy high values. And that can help make up for using a higher F stop lens which will be significantly cheaper. And a higher F stop gives you more depth of field which can really help with things like birds in flight. I don't think it's nearly as important to have a low F stop lens these days. What I mostly shoot with now is a 100-500 mm lens that is F7.1 at 500 mm. And I use a 1.4 extender when the light is good. So it becomes 700 mm and a minimum F stop of 10. And I can get very good results.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:41 pm to
Find a used z7 body now that the z7ii is out. 70-200. You’ll have enough mp to crop down.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:26 am to
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Canon 7D with the Canon 100-400 mm lens


This. See if you can pick up a used 7d mk ii and spend the rest on a lens. I shot with that camera for years and it’s a great sports and wildlife photography camera. Great autofocus. It’s not great in low light but everything with cameras is give and take until you start spending a ton of money.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:12 am to
For this subject matter and budget, I’d recommend a used Sony a6600 paired with a used Tamron 18–300mm f/3.5–6.3for these reasons. The a6600 has Real-time Eye AF for animals meaning the predicitve AF for this camera will snap the photo when the eye is in focus (this can't be overstated enough for wilflife photography). It also has 11 fps continuous shooting, and in-body image stabilization (IBIS), making it ideal for capturing fast-moving wildlife handheld. The Tamron 18–300mm lens provides an incredibly versatile zoom range (27–450mm equivalent on APS-C) with Vibration Compensation, allowing you to photograph both close-up and distant subjects without changing lenses. This combination creates a true one-lens solution, which is perfect for wildlife photography because it reduces the need to carry multiple lenses, speeds up response time for fleeting moments, and is lightweight and portable (the a6600 is a mirrorless camera and is smaller and lighter than traditional DSLRs.) FWIW, both the camera and lens are weather sealed.

For wildlife photography, APS-C cameras can be advantageous over full-frame because their smaller sensor effectively “crops” the image, giving you more reach from the same lens. This is called the crop factor—for Sony APS-C cameras like the a6600, it’s 1.5×, meaning a 300mm lens behaves like a 450mm lens on a full-frame camera. This extra reach makes it easier to fill the frame with distant wildlife without buying ultra-telephoto lenses, keeping your kit lighter and more affordable.

All the other camears mentioned are great, but are infirior to the combination above for the following reasons. The Fujifilm X-T5 can struggle with wildlife because of autofocus system limitations and lens ecosystem constraints. Being a DSLR, the Canon 7D with 100–400mm is heavier and less portable and you'll have to buy another "kit lens" to get to the ranges above. Additionally, the Nikon Z7 is a full frame camera and with 70–200mm doesn’t have 1/2 the reach of the Sony far enough without cropping or teleconverters. And yes, it has more MP's but 24 mps is more than enough. You can print poster size and bigger with 24mp. There is a hidden downside to more MP's and that's storage. Uncompressed raw files out of the Z7 can be up to 120 MB per image. Cmpare this to a 24 MP uncompressed raw file which come in at around 34 MP's. So that roughly 4 times more photos on a single card. And don't forget about writing those images to a memory card. If shooting in bursts (and you'll want to shoot in bursts) you'll have to get the fastest memory card available to keep your camera from buffering.

I'm includign the links for the sony and tamron on MPB a used camera site. I've used them before and the gear I've gotten from them has been rated higher than what they describe. This items used are right in your budget. MPB has the best prices on the used market and come with a 6 month warranty if i recall correctly (check that before buying). I would not hesitate to buy anything from them. All of their photos are of the actual item you are buying.

Sony a6600 Mirrorless Camera Body (Used)

Tamron 18–300mm f/3.5–6.3 Di III-A VC VXD Lens (Used)

Tamron 18–300mm f/3.5–6.3 Di III-A VC VXD Lens (New)
ETA: Here's a Reddit post (yes, I know) on the same setup I'm suggesting.

Sony a6600 & Tamron 18-300mm
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:19 am to
I bought a like new Nikon Coolpix P950 off eBay for $675.

I decided to get into photographing deer and looked for a camera a couple years ago. I was overwhelmed with the options but settled on the P950 due to its simple “point and snap” capabilities
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:41 am to
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I used to think both and they are becoming less true IMO. A good camera body can do a lot of good for you with image stabilization and pushing the ISO up to what used to be crazy high values. And that can help make up for using a higher F stop lens which will be significantly cheaper. And a higher F stop gives you more depth of field which can really help with things like birds in flight. I don't think it's nearly as important to have a low F stop lens these days. What I mostly shoot with now is a 100-500 mm lens that is F7.1 at 500 mm. And I use a 1.4 extender when the light is good. So it becomes 700 mm and a minimum F stop of 10. And I can get very good results.


Modern camera bodies do help a lot with stabilization and high ISO, but higher F-stop lenses can still suffer from diffraction and softening of fine details, especially on the corners and on smaller sensors. These lenses can be prone to chromatic aberration and purple fringing which remain issues that software can’t fully correct, particularly in high-contrast scenes.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:44 am to
For photography when you travel, it is hard to beat Micro Four Thirds cameras. The sensor size is also very friendly to telephoto photography. For example, you can get an Olympus E-PL10 for under $500 used and an Olympus 50-200 SWD lens for under $350 leaving you over $600 in your budget for a travel zoom to cover wide angle for landscape photography.

The Oly 50-200 is tack sharp at all focal lengths and the body image stabilization will help with those wildlife shots.

The camera and lens sizes in the M43 world are going to be nearly half the size of comparable full-frame and APS-C SLRs and also smaller than the mirrorless cameras in those formats. I find it very easy to pack my camera without needing the separate camera bag that I used for my Canon full-frame equipment.

Another option for staying under budget is to rent the equipment for the trip from Lensrentals.com. It's a pretty easy process and will let you try out equipment for this trip before you commit to buy anything.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:15 am to
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For photography when you travel, it is hard to beat Micro Four Thirds cameras.


You're 100% right that Micro Four Thirds cameras a great for travel photography. They do have maximum portability and versitility and are great at personal ("snap-shot's), street or landscape shots. Their lightweight bodies, and compact lenses, make them easy to carry and they can often be used discreetly. However, the size difference between a mirrorless aps-c camera and a m4/3 camera isn't that much. In fact here are the two cameras side by side.



Not much different.

But for wildlife photography m4/3 cameras are less than ideal. This is because their smaller sensors, while the 2x crop factor that give you more reach with lenses, they also come with a smaller pixel pitch. Pixel pitch is basically the size of each individual photosite on the sensor, or a smaller the area to gather light. These smaller photosites leads to reduced sharpness (due to diffraction effects appearing sooner), less dynamic range and higher noise at high ISO. That's why I said for wildlife (and sport) shooting, mirrorless APS-C cameras are the sweet spot between price, size, crop factor (at 1.5) and image quality.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:48 am to
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Only thing I can tell you is that the lens is way more important than the camera body.


Then go with Fuji, they dont make a bad lens.

Any lens they sell will have higher quality than entry level Canon/Nikon/Sony
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32254 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Then go with Fuji, they dont make a bad lens.


While Fuji lenses are will regarded, I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.

But more than that, the original budget was $2000 max. With the Fujifilm X-T5 mentioned above and the Fuji 100-400 you're almost twice that....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 1:56 pm to
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While Fuji lenses are will regarded, I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.


The entire lineup is stellar. Even the XC lenses get you better than "kit lens" quality images.

Posted by gus78
Member since Aug 2023
7 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:22 pm to
I started the same journey about 2 years ago. I ultimately ended up with the Canon R7. Use Sigma 18-150mm and 150-600mm lenses. Camera body was purchased through canon and lenses bought used/new in box. Am not even close to being proficient in all of the features, but getting better with time and having fun learning. All of the above would fit your budget. One thing to consider with Nat Parks and Wildlife is that the 150-600 is big to lug around, but a large lens is necessary if wildlife is going to be your main use.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3146 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:37 pm to
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But for wildlife photography m4/3 cameras are less than ideal. This is because their smaller sensors, while the 2x crop factor that give you more reach with lenses, they also come with a smaller pixel pitch. Pixel pitch is basically the size of each individual photosite on the sensor, or a smaller the area to gather light. These smaller photosites leads to reduced sharpness (due to diffraction effects appearing sooner), less dynamic range and higher noise at high ISO. That's why I said for wildlife (and sport) shooting, mirrorless APS-C cameras are the sweet spot between price, size, crop factor (at 1.5) and image quality.


It's a typical knock from people who don't use them. Diffraction starts to become apparent around f/8-f/11. In most circumstances, you shoot wildlife with wide open apertures where pixel pitch (or pixel density) leads to higer resolution which is especially helpful in bird photography and distant subjects. That's because you are putting more pixels on the small subject at the same focal length than with a full frame camera. Additionally, where the M43 size benefit really shines is in lenses now that full frame and APS-C bodies have become more compact in mirrorless models. So, not only is an M43 50-200 lens tack sharp, it is also smaller than a 50-200 mm lens in larger formats and gives you a narrower field of view, comparable to 100-400mm in full-frame.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32254 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:53 pm to
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It's a typical knock from people who don't use them. Diffraction starts to become apparent around f/8-f/11. In most circumstances, you shoot wildlife with wide open apertures where pixel pitch (or pixel density) leads to higer resolution which is especially helpful in bird photography and distant subjects. That's because you are putting more pixels on the small subject at the same focal length than with a full frame camera. Additionally, where the M43 size benefit really shines is in lenses now that full frame and APS-C bodies have become more compact in mirrorless models. So, not only is an M43 50-200 lens tack sharp, it is also smaller than a 50-200 mm lens in larger formats and gives you a narrower field of view, comparable to 100-400mm in full-frame.


I was an early mirrorless adopter, and I'm well aware of their capabilities and limitations of these types of systems.

While you’re right that wildlife photographers mostly shoot wide open, you can’t escape the fact that smaller sensors like M4/3 reach the diffraction limit at wider apertures than APS-C or full-frame sensors. So when diffraction starts to creep in at f/8 on a m4/3 camera an apsc camera wont see it until f/11 or higher (smaller). And this affects not only sharpness across the frame but also depth of field at the same f-stop, M4/3 cameras have inherently deeper depth of field than APS-C, which can be a disadvantage when you want subject isolation (which is desirable in Wildlife photography). So when maximizing sharpness and controlling background separation, APS-C mirrorless often has an advantage over M4/3 in practical wildlife shooting.

Higher pixel density doesn’t automatically give you more resolution. Resolution actually means two things: the image dimensions (width × height in pixels) and the ability to resolve fine detail in the scene. Both matter — the sensor can have lots of pixels, but if the lens can’t resolve fine detail, the extra pixels just record blur. On top of that, the smaller pixels in M4/3 sensors mean more noise and less dynamic range, especially in low-light situations, which can offset some of the theoretical detail advantage. This is due to simple physics: when you increase pixel density (more pixels in the same sensor area), each photosite collects less light, raising noise and reducing the sensor’s dynamic range.

The size advantage of M4/3 lenses comes from the short flange distance between the lens mount and the sensor, which allows smaller, lighter lenses for the smaller sensor. Modern mirrorless lenses (for both APS-C and Full Frame) also take advantage of shorter flange distances, so their mirrorless lenses are much more compact than older DSLR equivalents, narrowing the size gap with M4/3.

So while you're not wrong in your statements about M4/3 cameras, many of those advantages also exists in mirrorless APS-C cameras with lots of additional benefits as well.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted by popig
Member since Nov 2014
263 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 5:13 pm to
Thanks so much for the great thoughts all. I am not set on anything yet , but am leaning on a mirrorless camera. I will continue to research and listen to opinions and suggestions . Looking at YouTube and online , the Canon R 8 is rated well for wildlife entry level. I am not going to rush my decision so appreciate all ideas.
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