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All 93 U.S. medical schools are violating the law on race and admissions.

Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:27 am
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It’s been two years since the Supreme Court banned racial discrimination in college admissions. Nonetheless, at medical schools, evidence suggests that the discrimination continues. That’s my conclusion after submitting Freedom of Information Act requests to all 93 public medical schools. I asked for several years of admissions data, including on students who matriculated in 2024, following the Supreme Court’s ruling against affirmative action in Students for Fair Admission v. Harvard. I sought data on race, undergraduate grades, MCAT scores, and admission status, in order to assess whether racial disparities in admission standards persisted after the decision.


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Twenty-three medical schools have answered my request, including flagship institutions in states like Tennessee, Wisconsin, Missouri, New Mexico, and Colorado. The data they provided make it clear that schools are at least skirting the Supreme Court’s decision, if not violating it outright. Accepted black applicants had lower average MCAT scores than accepted white or Asian students at all but one school, Carle Illinois College of Medicine. Thirteen schools accepted black students with average MCAT scores lower than the score of the average rejected Asian or white applicant. That suggests black applicants receive significant preferential treatment. In fact, at two schools—Eastern Virginia Medical School and the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health—black applicants were about ten times likelier to be accepted than were Asian and white applicants with similar grades and test scores. And Asian students face a conspicuously difficult road to acceptance, despite significantly better credentials on average. At Eastern Virginia, only 3 percent of Asian applicants were admitted in 2024, compared with 11 percent of blacks. At Wisconsin, the divide was even starker: 15 percent of black applicants were admitted, but only 2 percent of Asians were. The rejected Asian students had an MCAT score about 17 percentage points higher than accepted black students, on average.


https://archive.is/UBrjD
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15755 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:30 am to
Thanks, Obama, you piece of shite
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90786 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:30 am to
doctahs & surgeons n sheeet
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6613 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:31 am to
There’s no way this could adversely affect our quality of healthcare
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:32 am to


This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12030 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:33 am to
93 Public Medical Schools to service a 340+ million population.

That is the travesty that needs discussion.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128526 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:35 am to
Worked with admissions my first and second year of med school helping on interview days and we got to give some input on how the interviewees did. I also had access to the detailed admissions data

Average MCAT of accepted white/asian was 29. Average GPA like 3.7

Average for black was 24, GPA like 3.1

This was about 20 years ago

Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6613 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:45 am to
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Average MCAT of accepted white/asian was 29. Average GPA like 3.7

Average for black was 24, GPA like 3.1


So it’s entry possible that a white PA has a higher aptitude to be a doctor than a black doctor they may be working for?
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17092 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:48 am to
Disgusting and insane. We have a an irrational society due to the social engineers.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30514 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:49 am to
I know when I choose my Doctor, I always go with the DEI pick...
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128526 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:49 am to
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So it’s entry possible that a white PA has a higher aptitude to be a doctor than a black doctor they may be working for?


Yes

Though to be fair I know some black PAs and NPs that are better than the docs they work with.

If I have a question about renal stuff Im better off talking to the black baw PA than the doctor whos english is shaky
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6613 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:58 am to
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This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12058 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:59 am to
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quote:
Average MCAT of accepted white/asian was 29. Average GPA like 3.7

Average for black was 24, GPA like 3.1



You're old. Just kidding...the stats haven't changed though. With the new MCAT scoring system it's the same:
Average MCAT accepted score:
African American: 505.7 which is about 48th percentile; science GPA: 3.4
Hispanic: 506.1
White: 512.6 which is about 81st percentile. science GPA:3.75~
Asiain: 514.4

That is from AAMC for last year's entering class.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41860 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:02 pm to
This does a disservice to everyone:

-Whites and Asians are discriminated against.

-Blacks are admitted based on race, which is unfair to them, and puts them in a position to be scrutinized.

-Future patients don’t necessarily get the best care.

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41860 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:03 pm to
Come on man. They don’t talk like that.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94559 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:04 pm to
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than the doctor whos english is shaky


:triggered:
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94559 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Come on man. They don’t talk like that.


LS, I know you don't talk like that. I've known dozens of successful black folks. Very few speak in "Ebonics" or hood-adjacent. But the percentage is above 0%.

So, while I agree with you both generally, and I up voted, there is a danger in absolutes.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11834 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:12 pm to
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doctahs & surgeons n sheeet


Sirjun, please!
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25965 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:57 pm to
My brother was a doctor and he told me that he would go to an Indian physician because the ones that get in Med School are cream of the crop brilliant.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41860 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:19 pm to
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So, while I agree with you both generally, and I up voted, there is a danger in absolutes.


You’re right.
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