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2025-2026 Roster and Salaries (as of 7/7)
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:02 pm
2025-2026 Cap Hits (according to Sportrac, yes i know Looney signed for $8M, but this is what Sportrac has) and remaining years/salary after the 2025-2026 season.
Zion $39,446,090 (2/$87M)
Poole $31,848,215 (1/$34M)
Murray $30,801,103 (2/$63M Player option last year)
Trey $25,000,000 (3/$87M)
Herb $13,937,574 (1/$15M)
Looney $7,804,878 (1/$8M Team Option)
Fears $7,520,040 (3/$27M)
Bey $6,118,644 (1/$6M)
Queen $5,157,960 (3/$19M)
Hawkins $4,741,320 (1/$7M Team option)
Jose $4,500,000 (1/$4M player option)
Missi $3,353,040 (2/$9M)
Karlo $1,955,377 (1/$2M Team option)
Peavy $1,272,870 (1/$2M)
Rostered Players: 14
Total Cap Hit: $183,457,111
Luxury Tax Line: $187,895,000
Total Space below Tax line: $4,473,889
Veteran minimum salary cap hit: $2,296,274
Undrafted Rookie cap hit: $1,272,870 (prorated if after season starts)
Two Way Players signed:
Lester Quinones
Hunter Dickinson
Trey Alexander
Ball Handling Guards:
Murray (out)
Poole
Fears
Jose
Shooting Only Guards with no defense:
Hawkins
Forwards:
Zion
Trey
Herb
Bey
Peavy
I think this is a skilled set of 4 guys who can defend multiple positions and do it well.
Bigs:
Missi
Queen
Looney
Karlo
Severely lacking shooting here.
Zion $39,446,090 (2/$87M)
Poole $31,848,215 (1/$34M)
Murray $30,801,103 (2/$63M Player option last year)
Trey $25,000,000 (3/$87M)
Herb $13,937,574 (1/$15M)
Looney $7,804,878 (1/$8M Team Option)
Fears $7,520,040 (3/$27M)
Bey $6,118,644 (1/$6M)
Queen $5,157,960 (3/$19M)
Hawkins $4,741,320 (1/$7M Team option)
Jose $4,500,000 (1/$4M player option)
Missi $3,353,040 (2/$9M)
Karlo $1,955,377 (1/$2M Team option)
Peavy $1,272,870 (1/$2M)
Rostered Players: 14
Total Cap Hit: $183,457,111
Luxury Tax Line: $187,895,000
Total Space below Tax line: $4,473,889
Veteran minimum salary cap hit: $2,296,274
Undrafted Rookie cap hit: $1,272,870 (prorated if after season starts)
Two Way Players signed:
Lester Quinones
Hunter Dickinson
Trey Alexander
Ball Handling Guards:
Murray (out)
Poole
Fears
Jose
Shooting Only Guards with no defense:
Hawkins
Forwards:
Zion
Trey
Herb
Bey
Peavy
I think this is a skilled set of 4 guys who can defend multiple positions and do it well.
Bigs:
Missi
Queen
Looney
Karlo
Severely lacking shooting here.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 11:17 am
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
Is Peavy on a 2-way deal?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
Absolute lunacy.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:16 pm to brmark70816
Peavy and Dickinson are on two way deals currently
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:33 pm to TeddyPadillac
Trey, Poole, and Bey are volume shooters. Bey has never shot less than 400 3s in his career outside of the year he got injured. He peaked at 600 attempts in Detroit.
Shooting will have to come from everyone else as well. Herb, Jose, Hawkins, and Reeves. Should be good enough on most night.
Shooting will have to come from everyone else as well. Herb, Jose, Hawkins, and Reeves. Should be good enough on most night.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:40 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:I believe this just as much as players coming back after given a 2 week evaluation timeline.
Herb, Jose, Hawkins, and Reeves. Should be good enough on most night.
quote:
Peavy and Dickinson are on two way deals currently
Dickinson yes. Peavy has not signed either a 2 way or contract. We probably need his cheap contract for a roster spot. I'd be surprised with the current moves if him and Reeves aren't on the books for the year.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:51 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:
Should be good enough on most night.
We don't have a single center who will attempt a 3.
Zion won't attempt them.
unless Trey plays backup 4, our backup 4 won't shoot them either.
There isn't a team out there that can get to 40 attempts when they get zero from 2/5's of the lineup. It's why Willie constantly talking about taking 40 3's last year was stupid and not attainable b/c of the roster. No different this year at this point.
Even if Poole and Trey each take 9 a game(which is a lot), finding 22 more 3 point attempts isn't happening.
I expect Fears to play and to shoot 3's. I don't expect Hawkins to get much playing time and if he doesn't then the only guys taking 3's outside Poole and Trey are Fears/Jose/Herb/Bey. If Hawkins is playing, then one of those isn't. any combo of 4 of those aren't taking 22 3's in total, nor would i want them.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:52 pm to Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:02 pm to duyp
They all look good in practice, and by the way he airballed one of them.
I'm not saying he can't add that to his bag, just that he isn't going to be contributing in any meaningful way to our 3 point shooting this year more than likely, neither will Queen and Looney certainly won't.
I'm not saying he can't add that to his bag, just that he isn't going to be contributing in any meaningful way to our 3 point shooting this year more than likely, neither will Queen and Looney certainly won't.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:06 pm to duyp
quote:He will not be shooting a significant amount of 3s this year to matter. Watch Steven Adams shoot 3s in practice. Looks great against no defense, but will not happen in a game.
His form looks pretty good. Imagine if Missi adds it to his bag
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
You're going to have to get past that mythical 40 attempts. Griffin is gone and we're not going to be one of those high volume 3 point teams. Most of the league aren't reaching that number either. 35-38 is where most team are. We can definitely get to 35-38.
You should definitely get to 25 from a combination of Poole, Trey, and Bey. And get the last 10-13 from everyone else. Herb usually averages 4, Jose as well. Herb really needs to get his attempts up to 6 now. Hawkins and Reeves should give you some shots when they get one the floor as well.
Either way, Poole, Trey, and Bey providing some spacing and gravity is more important than the actual volume itself.
You should definitely get to 25 from a combination of Poole, Trey, and Bey. And get the last 10-13 from everyone else. Herb usually averages 4, Jose as well. Herb really needs to get his attempts up to 6 now. Hawkins and Reeves should give you some shots when they get one the floor as well.
Either way, Poole, Trey, and Bey providing some spacing and gravity is more important than the actual volume itself.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:42 pm to supe12sta12z
I was never on board with the mythical 40 attempts. I was always the one saying i'd rather take 34ish efficient attempts than just start chucking up 3's just to get to that mythical number.
I can't stand watching the Celtics chuck up 3 after 3. Sure you'll beat the crap out of someone when your on, but it's not a sustainable way of winning in the playoffs.
I can't stand watching the Celtics chuck up 3 after 3. Sure you'll beat the crap out of someone when your on, but it's not a sustainable way of winning in the playoffs.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:53 pm to supe12sta12z
I think they will target 32-36 per game. That shouldn't bee too difficult to hit, especially if they add another shooter. I think that Jones will shoot 3-4 a game. I'd like to see Zion do the same, especially if he's playing more of the 1 and 2 this year.
This is going to sound crazy. But what if Poole doesn't start? If we start Zion at PG and Queen starts at PF. We roll out a starting line-up of..
Zion/ Jones/ Murphy/ Queen/ Missi
All of a sudden we have the biggest line-up in the league, with the ability to be a top defensive unit.
We roll out a bench of Alvarado (until Murray returns), Fears, Poole, Bey, Matkovic and Looney. Plus maybe we have a surprise in-between Reeves and Peavy. We can push Poole for 6MOTY (same type of role he thrived in GS). There is some possibilities there..
This is going to sound crazy. But what if Poole doesn't start? If we start Zion at PG and Queen starts at PF. We roll out a starting line-up of..
Zion/ Jones/ Murphy/ Queen/ Missi
All of a sudden we have the biggest line-up in the league, with the ability to be a top defensive unit.
We roll out a bench of Alvarado (until Murray returns), Fears, Poole, Bey, Matkovic and Looney. Plus maybe we have a surprise in-between Reeves and Peavy. We can push Poole for 6MOTY (same type of role he thrived in GS). There is some possibilities there..
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:06 pm to brmark70816
I'm all for a guy with Poole's skill set to come off the bench and be a volume scorer, but there is an extremely small chance he isn't the opening day starter.
The only way Poole doesnt start is if Fears looks unbelievable in summer league and in practice.
There's a 0% chance this lineup, Zion/ Jones/ Murphy/ Queen/ Missi
,ever play together at any point of the season, nor should it.
The only way Poole doesnt start is if Fears looks unbelievable in summer league and in practice.
There's a 0% chance this lineup, Zion/ Jones/ Murphy/ Queen/ Missi
,ever play together at any point of the season, nor should it.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:25 pm to brmark70816
Yeah, with Z dominating the ball you aren't going to be a volume 3-point shooting team, period. The math won't math. The problem was worse with BI, which was two ball-dominant guys who didn't shoot 3s.
Poole & Trey will be your volume guys. Herb was a 40%+ 3-point guy from the corners in 2023-24. From the bench Jose, Hawkins, Bey, Reeves & Peavey should all be willing 3-point shooters. TBD on Fears.
With the bigs, I'd bet Karlo & Queen will get a few up and maybe Missi too this year. But the myth of the volume-shooting big is pretty much that--a myth. Even bigs who can hit them, like Turner and Holmgren in this year's finals, only make 1 or 2 a game, not enough to really consistently impact the gravity on the court.
Overall, of the 4 teams in the conference finals this year, none was top 5 in 3-point shooting volume. The Pacers were 21st. The Thunder were 17th. The Knicks were 28th. Minny was 6th.
The Pels were 26th (two slots above the Knicks) and only made them at a 34.7% clip. That was obviously greatly impacted by the number of injuries. The season before the Pels shot 37.6% from beyond the arc, which would have been a top-5 shooting % in the league this year. So, they need to get back to around that level of efficiency. I think the focus should be more on that than increasing the overall volume of attempts. With Z, we are always going to have more shot attempts in the paint and (hopefully) from the line than perimeter-oriented teams like the Celtics.
Poole & Trey will be your volume guys. Herb was a 40%+ 3-point guy from the corners in 2023-24. From the bench Jose, Hawkins, Bey, Reeves & Peavey should all be willing 3-point shooters. TBD on Fears.
With the bigs, I'd bet Karlo & Queen will get a few up and maybe Missi too this year. But the myth of the volume-shooting big is pretty much that--a myth. Even bigs who can hit them, like Turner and Holmgren in this year's finals, only make 1 or 2 a game, not enough to really consistently impact the gravity on the court.
Overall, of the 4 teams in the conference finals this year, none was top 5 in 3-point shooting volume. The Pacers were 21st. The Thunder were 17th. The Knicks were 28th. Minny was 6th.
The Pels were 26th (two slots above the Knicks) and only made them at a 34.7% clip. That was obviously greatly impacted by the number of injuries. The season before the Pels shot 37.6% from beyond the arc, which would have been a top-5 shooting % in the league this year. So, they need to get back to around that level of efficiency. I think the focus should be more on that than increasing the overall volume of attempts. With Z, we are always going to have more shot attempts in the paint and (hopefully) from the line than perimeter-oriented teams like the Celtics.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:09 pm to New City Champ
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This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:28 pm to brmark70816
quote:
Zion/ Jones/ Murphy/ Queen/ Miss.
All of a sudden we have the biggest line-up in the league, with the ability to be a top defensive unit.
What??
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:57 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:07 pm to GOP_Tiger
Color me surprised. That's great news. He'll have plenty of time to add to his game this offseason. I wasn't even sure when he would be cleared to shoot the ball. Glad to see him progressing nicely.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 7:34 pm to supe12sta12z
Yeah before his injury. He was a very underrated passer.
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