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We have arrived at the 84th anniversary of Operation Barbarossa...

Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:54 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69148 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:54 pm
The largest invasion in the history of the world began on June 22, 1941, as the German army invaded the Soviet Union with a force of roughly three million men spread across 150 different divisions. The Germans came at the Russians with three different army groups:

Army Group North - Field Marshal Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb
- 18th Army (General Georg von Kuchler): 170,000 men
- 16th Army (General Ernst Busch): 160,000 men
- 4th Panzer Army (General Erich Hoepner): 115,000 men

Army Group North's major objectives involved breaking through the Soviet front lines (obviously), driving rapidly toward Leningrad via Pskov and Novgorod.

Army Group Center - Field Marshal Fedor von Bock
- 4th Army (General Gunther von Kluge): 250,000 men
- 9th Army (Colonel General Adolf Strauss): 220,000 men
- 2nd Army (General Maximilian von Weichs): 200,000 men
- 2nd Panzer Army (General Heinz Guderian): 150,000 men

Army Group Center's main objectives was to smash the Red Army in Belarus, advance through Smolensk and then toward Moscow, and destroy the Red Army formations west of the Dnieper and Dvina Rivers.

Army Group South - Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt
- 6th Army (General Walter von Reichenau): 270,000 men
- 17th Army (General Carl-Heinrich von Stülpnagel): 240,000 men
- 1st Panzer Army (General Edward von Kleist): 170,000 men
- Romanian 3rd Army (General Petre Dumitrescu): 220,000 men
- Romanian 4th Army (General Nicolae Ciuperca): 120,000 men

Army Group's South major objective was the seizure of Ukraine, its agricultural resources, major cities (Kiev, Kharkov), and the Black Sea coast.

The offensive, which raged from June 22, 1941, to the end of the Red Army's counteroffensive in front of Moscow into the beginning of 1942, saw some of the bloodiest fighting in human history. It is estimated that some 250,000 Axis soldiers were killed, an additional 550,000 wounded, and 100,000 listed as missing/captured for the six and a half months of Barbarossa. The Red Army suffered between 4 million and 4.3 million total casualties over the same time period.

While the Germans saw initial success in the early going, the farther they advanced into the Soviet Union the tougher things got for them tactically and operationally. While the Germans did eventually make it to the gates of Moscow by December 1941, by that time they were out of gas and the Soviets were resurgent.

By the time it was all said and done, Operation Barbarossa was a tactical, operational, and strategic failure for the German army.







Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9480 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:57 pm to
The world would be totally different today if Operation Barbarossa was successful. It’s very interesting to think about. The Nazis almost made it all the way to Moscow too.
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
702 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:59 pm to
The Baltic states viewed the Nazis as liberators from the soviets. That's all I got
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:59 pm to
According to Dan Carlin in "Ghost of the Ostfront" there are still fields of bones in Russia today.
Posted by Boss13
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

The Baltic states viewed the Nazis as liberators from the soviets. That's all I got


What about the Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78676 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

The world would be totally different today if Operation Barbarossa was successful. It’s very interesting to think about. The Nazis almost made it all the way to Moscow too.


Ideal outcome would be they take Moscow, Stalin commits suicide or "commits suicide", the Communist government collapses, partisans cut the supply lines, the Heer suffers a repeat of Napoleon.

No CCP, no Best Korea, no Vietnam War, and Hitler still loses bigly.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31731 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:03 pm to
Germany's fatal mistake was the started Barbarossa 1 month too late. Ultimately they came within 20-25 miles of Moscow before winter hit with a vengeance. Had they stated a few weeks earlier they might have made it.

The other was diverting panzers from Army group center to Kiev and Army group south in August 1941.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
702 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:03 pm to
They were persecuted, but many unaware of it at the time. Also the Baltic states aren't slavic
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25980 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 12:44 am to
I've read that the Ukrainian nazis aren't really nazis, they're the Ukrainians that allied with the nazis because hate Russia.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104073 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:06 am to
And they would have made it if not for those meddling kids.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104073 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:02 pm to


Soviet painting depicting the opening day of Barbarossa
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