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Are a lot of these "investments" in the U.S. that Trump brags about just BS?

Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:13 pm
There are foreign countries and major U.S. corporations bragging about all of this investment in the U.S. and to be sure some of it is happening. But I think a lot of it is just grandstanding and bullshite and by the time anyone notices someone else will be in the White House.

Example - Apple claims they'll invest 500 billion in the U.S. and create 20,000 jobs. One problem...a few years ago apple claimed they would invest 400 billion in the U.S. and create 20,000 jobs. And a few years before that...Apple claimed they would invest 350 billion dollars in the U.S. and create 20,000 jobs. Guess what actually happened? They made some investments and also downsized in other areas and are laying off tech workers just like any other tech firm.


Some other examples - the Gulf States.

Saudi Arabia: These guys can pretty much never be trusted. This is mostly political theater. The Saudis in particular are full of shite. So much so that they bullshite their own people. In 2005 they announced a mega project called King Abdullah Economic City. They've already moved on from that and are all about NEOM now. NEOM as expected is going to be a tiny fraction of what they claimed it would be.

Qatar: The following quote is from the whitehouse website fact sheet
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Today in Qatar, President Donald J. Trump signed an agreement with Qatar to generate an economic exchange worth at least $1.2 trillion. President Trump also announced economic deals totaling more than $243.5 billion between the United States and Qatar, including an historic sale of Boeing aircraft and GE Aerospace engines to Qatar Airways.



That all sounds great until you realize the the GDP of Qatar is more around 240 billion give or take. In other words there is really no possible way they can even invest 1.2 trillion even if they wanted to unless it's over some ridiculously long time frame.

That being said countries like Germany, France, and Japan are making some real capital investments in the U.S. as they always have. We have by far the largest equities market in the world so people are going to invest here until things change.

Do I think all of this is bad? No. I think things are generally good. But you'd have to be the dumbest person ever to believe the dollar amount investments that these countries and companies claim to be investing. This is just more about getting in good favor with the current administration and most of it is just a complete dog and pony show.

Posted by The Squonk
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:20 pm to
Probably
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170270 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:26 pm to
If history is any indicator it seems almost a certainty
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:29 pm to
Probably not exactly bullshite. But, probably not as proclaimed, either- or, it won’t be in the end.

Politics and self-promotion.
Posted by Big Wes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:31 pm to
No. This time is different.

If you are going to sell here and just sit in treasuries, you will be taxed. If you don’t invest in the U.S.. You will get 90 cents or 95 cents in the dollars.

Make a deal. Even dollars. 100%.

They are going to supercharge investment inside the US.

Reshoreing is a thing. We must go all in. Cheap energy, American ingenuity.
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:32 pm to
Don’t know, don’t care to look into it. That’s the unfortunate byproduct of all day, every day, such a dedicated crew of folks promoting mostly “crying wolf” stories and “breaking news” pretty much for the sole purpose of insult and innuendo. Sure, there are some legit items mixed in at times, but unfortunately those suffer the consequence of going unaddressed due to the hair brained “typical” items that flood the zone.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:34 pm to
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But, probably not as proclaimed

Um...that's what bullshite is
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:34 pm to
So, it is better to do nothing? Of course what Dims support is importing murderers and rapists.

If half these never materialize it is still a tremendous amount of investment..
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170270 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:40 pm to
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So, it is better to do nothing?

No one said that
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Of course what Dims support is importing murderers and rapists.

Talk about getting side tracked with stupidity
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If half these never materialize it is still a tremendous amount of investment..

Of course

But I think that's the point. It's not even likely to be half.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:42 pm to
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Um...that's what bullshite is


Nah. bullshite would be just not true.

True, but their impact or final result being exaggerated or even just wildly speculative isn’t quite what I’d call bullshite, here. It’s possible it works as we were told. Improbable, but possible.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:45 pm to
If it turns out that only about 10% of these investments materialize would you consider it to be bullshite? I certainly would.

By the way, I'm not saying Trump is bullshitting. I'm saying the people saying they're going to make these investments are bullshitting. I don't even think Trump buys it. So I guess in that sense he's somewhat bullshitting.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:57 pm to
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If it turns out that only about 10% of these investments materialize would you consider it to be bullshite? I certainly would.


Of course.

I also read your original question as asking if I think these investments are known to be bullshite now instead of if I think they will turn out to be bullshite.

My answer was based on the former understanding.

But, yes, if only 10% of these investments materialize, then I’d consider it bullshite.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:09 pm to
Probably so, remember all the car companies tripping over themselves spending money on electric cars early in Biden's term that reversed course near the end.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170270 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:40 pm to
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Probably so, remember all the car companies tripping over themselves spending money on electric cars early in Biden's term that reversed course near the end.

Correct

And I think it's important to point out that this isn't something unique to the Trump administration. This is normal when there is a change in the executive branch.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:57 pm to
Two alters in the first few replies. Nice
Posted by PaperTiger
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:05 pm to
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If it turns out that only about 10% of these investments materialize would you consider it to be bullshite? I certainly would.


I wouldnt necessarily. Companies looking to invest here come up with the numbers, not the Oval Office. I'd say most of the time they are higher than what they should be. The administrations responsible for bringing them here and working out the deal are just relaying the numbers to the public.

Think about state level companies and how they say they are going to create X number of jobs and that will keep them exempt from property taxes or some other exemptions.

Elon was calling out the AI related $500 billion "investment" by Nvidia saying they wouldnt have the capital to even do this if they sold the company outright.

Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18081 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:38 pm to
Well genius; actions talk louder than words. For four years unvetted illegals freely entered the USA and were supported with money, food and places to stay. When Trump tried to remove them the Dims rose up and continue to file lawsuits, riot, and provide support to those he is trying to deport.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170270 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:51 pm to
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Well genius; actions talk louder than words. For four years unvetted illegals freely entered the USA and were supported with money, food and places to stay

Literally has fricking NOTHING to do with the topic
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:01 pm to
A contract with Boeing for planes is kind of a big deal from Qatar.

Saudi Arabia already has significant investment in US manufacturing. Sabic which makes various polymers, including Lexan. Exxon Chemical/Sabic world scale ethylene cracker near Corpus Christi and Movita 625,000+ BPD refinery in Port Arthur for starters. A new plant to be built near Point Comfort, TX. Large military orders are another way.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7638 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:07 pm to
another "gathering of jackoffs" thread
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