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Israeli pagers, Ukraine drones in shipping containers

Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14433 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:39 pm
The list goes on for Israel finding hamas leaders all over the place and killing them. Ukraine finds scientists and generals and kills them.

Does the US have the capability to come up with ideas like these? We caught Saddam and Bin Laden, but wonder what else we have done that’s not published. Or have we not needed to do anything?
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
69740 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:42 pm to
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We caught Saddam and Bin Laden, b


Did we?

I don't believe anything anymore after years and years of proven lies
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10952 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
No one terrorizes like our terrorist
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3606 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
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caught Bin Laden


We had him early on — and let him go. Why? Because ending the hunt too soon would’ve killed the public’s appetite for endless war. Dragging it out kept the fear high, the funding flowing, and the war machine running. It was never just about justice.
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
146 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
US certainly has greater capabilities than either, but considering its massive array of weapons, it usually prefers the hammer rather than the scalpel
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
5485 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:47 pm to
Clinton had UBL in the 90s, and said no thank you.
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
268 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:54 pm to
Yes I think it’s a certainty the USA has this capability. However I am equally as certain that the USA does not, at this time, have the will or necessity to execute a plan such as these.
Consider the CIA use of doctors performing a vaccine campaign in Abbottabad to gather DNA to locate Bin Laden…very covert and clever
There are well funded clever folks on our side whose only job is to come up with new ways to kill people.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3995 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:55 pm to
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Does the US have the capability to come up with ideas like these?


No, we hand out billions to lobbyists.
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
268 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:59 pm to
Or a combination of both like the R9-X missile.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17061 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:26 pm to
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We caught Saddam and Bin Laden, but wonder what else we have done that’s not published.

According to a highly placed congressman and multiple IC whistleblowers Bin Laden was sitting in Iran and Pakistan for the entire war and we knew and could’ve taken him out any time we wanted but the IC left him alone for reasons known only to them at the moment.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14433 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 2:17 pm to
What is IC?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17061 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 2:34 pm to
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What is IC?

Intelligence community.

We have 17+ agencies within the Department of National Intelligence (DNI) post 9/11 all of whom also use contractors and assets globally to do work that is compartmentalized and often not shared between or even within agencies for purposes of deniability or security.

One of their favorite games to play is “the CIA wasn’t involved with that” or “no cia employees were involved” because they’re technically/legally correct.

It was often some other compartmentalized sub group using contractors with cutouts and 99.99% of people in Langley would’ve had no idea it was being run or coordinated by some group within the DNI via proxies.

Guys like Shawn Ryan and Erik Prince both got their start doing wet work for the agency on projects exactly like that.

So to avoid the “it was/wasn’t the CIA” BS you have to look at whether any of the 17 IC/DNI agencies or their contractors, assets or sources were involved or had awareness of whatever the thing was like the nordstream pipeline attack.
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