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The Woodlands Country Club Sold to Arcis Golf

Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by IH8ThreePutts
Member since Mar 2018
1697 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:52 am
Happened to see an article that Arcis Golf has bought The Woodlands Country Club this week and has taken over operations on Tuesday May 13th. This includes all 99 Holes of golf and club houses. Curious to see if the initiation dues and memberships prices increase.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:26 am to
That is a big move from Arcis. ClubCorp paid $250m for Woodlands back in 2014. Arcis plans to invest another $30m into the facilities. Safe to assume the initiation fees are going to be significantly higher and pretty sure the membership would be pissed if they are on the hook for any portion of that $30m, unless they voted for it.

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Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
2090 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:27 am to
Interesting. Anything will be an upgrade from the current owners. Didn’t realize they have 99 holes.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15211 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Happened to see an article that Arcis Golf has bought The Woodlands Country Club


I wonder why Invited sold that portion only? Any other properties sold?
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1061 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:21 am to
Invited is deep in debt and WCC is their cash cow.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2197 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:57 am to
Arcis seems to be doing a good job with Cinco. I played there last week. I wish someone, anyone, would offer the Lopez's enough money to buy Sienna. My neighborhood course and clubhouse have, and at one point did have, so much to offer. The Lopez's have run it and Greatwood into the ground.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11678 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:24 pm to
RIP to 3.5 hour rounds
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1061 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:52 pm to
I was a member at Cinco for a little, I don't think ARCIS was doing anything well as much as they had a cash cow and didn't do anything to screw it up
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15211 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Invited is deep in debt and WCC is their cash cow


Hmm. Not sure how it worked when ClubCorp bought that package of courses. I’d think it was more of a land sale if any.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24885 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:24 am to
I’m a member here, club corp has let it go to shite over the last 2 years seemingly trying to save cash on the way out the door. The player course is in the worst shape it’s been in years and tpc is closing to redo the greens after the senior event threatened to relocate.

We will see how it goes, the main problem is there are way to many members, they did a tiers program, they should split off the trails courses and go back to a “full golf” only membership at the woodlands courses.

Arcis is investing 30 million into the properties, hopefully mostly at the player course to get it back to good shape and build a much needed 19th hole and locker room. Currently only 1 toilet for men, makes for interesting situations during the member guest and other mga events.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24885 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Safe to assume the initiation fees are going to be significantly higher and pretty sure the membership would be pissed if they are on the hook for any portion of that $30m, unless they voted for it.


We did not.

“Full golf” has been going for 85k initiation recently which is insane for the value we get.

Hopefully they eliminate the tiers system and send all the lower members back to the trials courses.

We would swallow an assessment if it meant the membership was cut significantly, waiting to see what happens with everything.
Posted by Gas33forever
Member since May 2025
3 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:29 pm to
Maybe I’m crazy, but in what universe would a golf club make an assessment when it’s a non-equity membership? Do you not hold 0 interest in the clubs assets? Essentially they pay an initiation fee, but don’t own a share of the club. If it was equity and you could sell back your share someday, then an assessment would make sense to improve your. Arcis owns the course, clubhouse, everything- not the members. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1997 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:45 am to
quote:

“Full golf” has been going for 85k initiation


I’m pretty surprised the woodlands is 85k. Why don’t yall just join Carlton or Champions?

Last I played a course up there a year ago or so I couldn’t believe how bad the condition up n was.
Posted by Gas33forever
Member since May 2025
3 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:44 am to
It’s not 85, it’s 60,30,15 for the tiers
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
231 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:56 am to
quote:

? Essentially they pay an initiation fee, but don’t own a share of the club.


Is there an option to buy stock after joining? That’s how a lot of private clubs work. You pay the initiation fee then have an option to purchase stock. It’s usually not the same thing.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2185 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:17 am to
quote:

60,30,15 for the tiers


What are the tiers there again? Is it just the number of courses you have access to?

Got no interest in joining anytime soon, but when the kids are a bit older, I've always thought about it.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by Gas33forever
Member since May 2025
3 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 7:52 pm to
1) trails (36 holes)
2) Trails, Palmer (63 holes)
3) Trails, Palmer, Tournament, Player (99 holes total)

I feel like Player should be part of 2nd tier, and just keep Tournament at the top and make that the best it can be, but I guess it divides it nicely by numbers.
Posted by IH8ThreePutts
Member since Mar 2018
1697 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 7:31 am to
I’ve never played any of the courses but I do get lessons at The Reifnery, it’s a fantastic practice facility. From the little of the player course that you can see from the club house it always looks in decent shape.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24885 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 4:52 pm to
The bottom tier is actually trials and Palmer but only Monday through Friday before noon. Not allowed to join any mga.

The middle tier is those 3 all the time, Trails mga only, and the top is all the courses all the time.

I’ve heard from multiple people the latest round people full paid in the 80s.


The player is great when in good shape, the last super we had did a horrible job with it.

Arcis is committed to building a new club house and getting the course back in good shape. Seems like a good sale so far from what we’ve been told.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24885 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

there an option to buy stock after joining? That’s how a lot of private clubs work. You pay the initiation fee then have an option to purchase stock. It’s usually not the same thing.


No. With club corp you could transfer if you moved. I would think arcis is the same.

Carlton non equity is slightly less but the monthly’s are much more, equity at Carlton is much higher initiation.

There are way too many members at woodlands, arics has seemed to realize this as well and from the focus groups it seems like they’re looking into doing a split and making the woodlands courses more of a premium.
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