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In Matter of Days, Outlook Shifts From Solid Growth to Recession Risk
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:15 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:15 am
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The stock market went off a cliff last week after President Trump announced the highest tariffs in more than a century, vaporizing more than $6 trillion of wealth in two days.
Whether the real economy will follow is impossible to know. But the risks are tilting in that direction.
The available evidence suggests U.S. economic fundamentals remained strong through March. Job growth accelerated, with nonfarm payrolls rising 228,000, unemployment low at 4.2%, wages rising at a healthy clip and layoffs rare.
But the world changed Wednesday, which Trump dubbed Liberation Day. He announced massive tariffs on almost every country—effectively the largest U.S. tax increase since 1968, according to JPMorgan. On Thursday, U.S. markets suffered their steepest declines since 2020, with the S&P 500 falling 4.8%. On Friday, China retaliated with 34% additional tariffs on all goods imported from the U.S., and the S&P 500 plunged an additional 6%.
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In a note titled “There Will Be Blood,” JPMorgan’s head of economic research, Bruce Kasman, raised the probability of a global recession to 60% from 40%. The bank expects U.S. gross domestic product to contract 0.3% in the fourth quarter of 2025 from a year earlier; it previously expected 1.3% growth. Unemployment will reach 5.3% next year, JPMorgan says.
“The size and disruptive impact of U.S. trade policies, if sustained, would be sufficient to tip a still healthy U.S. and global expansion into recession,” Kasman said. “The tariff shock will likely be magnified by its effect on sentiment and through potential disruptions to global supply chains.”
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The U.S. economy has been the envy of the world in recent years. Growth has averaged nearly 3% since 2022, outpacing America’s global peers and silencing doubters who predicted aggressive interest-rate increases by the Federal Reserve would cause a recession.
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If the hit to inflation proves temporary and inflation looks set to resume its decline toward the Fed’s 2% target, policymakers could bring the economy back from the precipice by cutting interest rates. But if consumers and businesses expect higher inflation to continue, the Fed would likely avoid cutting until clear signs of weakness emerge, at which point it could be too late to stave off a recession.
“The Fed has its hands tied, and I don’t think monetary policy support is going to be likely,” said Blerina Uruçi, chief U.S. economist at T. Rowe Price. “I do think we have to rely on the U.S. consumer being resilient and absorbing this shock if we want to see a recession being avoided this year.”
In order to avoid likely recession, the US is going to rely on the consumer to buy us out of it while paying higher prices and having less buying power.
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Let’s get the typical out of the way:
- TDS
- Liberal, keep melting
- WSJ is part of the problem
- Globalists will do anything to protect their scheme
- Whatever personal attacks I can’t conceive of right now
- But Biden, but Kamala, but Democrats
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:17 am to CollegeFBRules
Will it be like a bloodbath?
But somehow the media wont melt over the use of that

But somehow the media wont melt over the use of that
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The U.S. economy has been the envy of the world in recent years. Growth has averaged nearly 3% since 2022,
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 7:18 am
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:17 am to CollegeFBRules
We've been in a recession for years now.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:17 am to CollegeFBRules
The stock market is not the economy. End of discussion.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:17 am to CollegeFBRules
That jobs report says otherwise
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:18 am to CollegeFBRules
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“The Fed has its hands tied, and I don’t think monetary policy support is going to be likely,”
Thats primarily because we've used all our tools already to stimulate growth over the past 15 years and have very little room to add more debt.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:18 am to roguetiger15
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That jobs report says otherwise
You mean that jobs report based on an economy before “Liberation Day”?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats primarily because we've used all our tools already to stimulate growth over the past 15 years and have very little room to add more debt.
100% an empty gun to deal with this new, self-imposed jolt to the economy.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:21 am to CollegeFBRules
here's the thing jethro, you don't change your outlook in a matter of days that typically happens over a matter of quarters. i was a stock broker for 21 years. i was sitting at a quotron on black monday in 1987 by 1989 we were setting new highs.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:22 am to CollegeFBRules
Ain't it funny how when you take the USAID money away we are now recession bound. Proping up the economy because of your bad policies is wrong, Biden is the grift that never goes away.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:23 am to Barneyrb
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Ain't it funny how when you take the USAID money away we are now recession bound.
Has zero to do with new projections of possible recession.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:25 am to Barneyrb
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Ain't it funny how when you take the USAID money away we are now recession bound.
Holy shite
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:25 am to dickkellog
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you don't change your outlook in a matter of days
Of course you do, Dick, if the president of the United States completely changes the world in which you economically operate in. You must have been a shite broker.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:25 am to Barneyrb
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Proping up the economy because of your bad policies is wrong, Biden is the grift that never goes away.
Has zero bearing on the current situation.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:27 am to Jimmy Russel
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The stock market is not the economy. End of discussion.
I’d love to dig up some old threads from 2022 when the market crashed under Biden. Would this board have the same disregard for the stock market and say ‘muh boomers’?
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:27 am to CollegeFBRules
Media is trying to brainwash us into a recession.
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:30 am to CollegeFBRules
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economic fundamentals remained strong
THIS
I don't care if the market is down 10%, if my dollar gain 20% more purchasing power
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:32 am to SDVTiger
“Solid growth” my arse. I know I’m a religious fanatic hayseed but good grief, they just set some erroneous narrative and then take off from there. Printing money and just scattering it into the winds while skimming and greasing those who participate is not SOLID. Deficits in the TRILLIONS and a guaranteed calamitous collapse with some insanely envious ‘One World Government’ like the UN seizing our land, wealth and most of all our culture of Freedom (think Authoritarian Europe) and our Souls is neither preferable or tolerable for Americans who enjoy such and hope to pass it on to our children. Money, money, money. I could go on a real spiritual rant but i know the Board Brethren that have “eyes that see “know exactly what I envision. Coffee time for me. Sheesh!
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