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Founding Fathers vs. Rand Paul on Tariffs

Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted by JeniverJonez
Maryland
Member since Jul 2021
193 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:55 pm
Rand Paul is running around claiming "Tariffs are Theft" which is funny to me considering the two main authors of the U.S. Constitution were big supporters of tariffs.

Hamilton authored three tariff bills (1789, 1790, and 1791) which Madison got through congress and George Washington signed. Madison signed the 1816 Tariff bill which he expressly supported to protect manufacturing, along with raising revenue for internal improvements.


Does Rand Paul, the Bluegrass John Locke of Montesquieu Hill, think that Hamilton and Madison are thieves and economic retards who needed to take an Econ 101 class?

Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13884 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:57 pm to
TDS Paul has gone off the deep end.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86186 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:57 pm to
He’s swampy
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 4:58 pm to
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Hamilton authored three tariff bills (1789, 1790, and 1791) which Madison got through congress and George Washington signed.

This is what Rand is arguing for. He says tariffs need to go through congress because they are a tax.

The Founding Fathers “so feared the power of taxation that they gave it only to Congress.”

"I stand to speak against the tariffs. I stand to speak against the idea of skipping democracy, of skipping the constitutional republic, of rejecting our founding principles."

"Not because I have any animus towards the president. I do this because I love my country..."

"We should vote. This is a tax, plain and simple."

"Taxes should not be enacted by one person."

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This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:00 pm to
Rand is obviously doing the bidding of the whiskey lobby.
They are all prostitutes.
Even Rand Paul.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93690 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:00 pm to
Rand paul is a loser always has been

Shouldnt he be focused on Fauci after all his bark
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9378 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:40 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86186 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:38 pm to
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"We should vote. This is a tax, plain and simple."


I’m down.

Let’s vote on income tax.






Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:38 pm to
This board goes nuts about how the government steals their money with taxes.

Tariffs are taxes.

You do the math.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

Rand Paul is running around claiming "Tariffs are Theft" 




He never said that. He said tariffs are taxes, and they are.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62723 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:39 pm to
Income and property taxes are theft. Tariffs are how this country's government was always meant to be run.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:43 pm to
Tariffs are just a sales tax. You do realize that right?

A tariff is a tax on a product brought in to be sold. The consumer will pay it as the tariff is taxed onto the sale price.

Im not saying i diaagree that consumption taxes can cover our budget, but we will have to reduce that budget a lot
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 5:44 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62723 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Tariffs are just a sales tax. You do realize that right?

A tariff is a tax on a product brought in to be sold. The consumer will pay it as the tariff is taxed onto the sale price.


You can keep saying this, but you'll always be wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297025 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Tariffs are how this country's government was always meant to be run.


Would never work currently, and you know thats true.

If Trump ditched income taxes for tariffs this economy would be destroyed in months.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

You can keep saying this, but you'll always be wrong

Explain to me how you think a tariff isnt a sales tax? You think companies are gonna pay a tariff to import something and just hold onto it and not sell it or use it to make something else to sell?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62723 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Would never work currently, and you know thats true.

If Trump ditched income taxes for tariffs this economy would be destroyed in months.


Nope. It would work just fine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297025 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:48 pm to
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Nope. It would work just fine.


If the tariffs worked and brought back mfg, where is your revenue coming from?
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16168 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:48 pm to
I love how Rand Paul and Thomas Massie triggers the booger eaters on this board.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86186 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

This board goes nuts about how the government steals their money with taxes. Tariffs are taxes. You do the math.



He said the same thing about income tax.

Know who lowered my income tax? Trump, not Paul.
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