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F1: Mika Hakkinen vs Michael Schumacher epic battle - Austria 1998

Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:08 am
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1720 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:08 am
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This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 8:12 am
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4355 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:36 am to
Hakkinen doesn't get enough credit when looking back at great F1 drivers. The guy was universally fast and an extremely clean driver.
Posted by RamJam1
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2007
376 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:11 pm to
Man I miss the early 2000s F1. V-10s, smaller cars all built differently, refueling, tire wars and Marlboro. Reliability issues and backup cars…etc.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Grillades
Member since Nov 2009
597 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:53 pm to
I forgot how thin the driver lineup was in the late 90s. Hakkinen, Schumacher were top-tier drivers and Hill was pretty good but there was a whole lot of average behind them. Still, good times...and V10 engines.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28591 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Marlboro


Mika got his entrance into F1 from the Marlboro Driving Academy where Lotus picked him up.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41815 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:20 pm to
Andrea de Cesaris had a long F1 career because his father handled Marlboro racing advertising in Italy. He decided where $5,000,000 million dollars of Marlboro money would be spent.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47346 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:33 pm to
2026 F1 going back to smaller cars
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37648 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:39 pm to
A little smaller nothing like what we’d like to see.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47346 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:40 pm to
That's true... Progress though first time they have gotten smaller in forever
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37648 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:42 pm to
Now, V-10!
Posted by RamJam1
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2007
376 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:54 pm to
Think we’ll ever see refueling again? It adds another variable in race/pit strategy
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5221 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 3:24 am to
I never really understood why it was outlawed.

I remember Schumacher would do (seemingly) ridiculous 4 stop strategies and fly round to win, while everyone else was stuck doing 1 and 2 stops.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14422 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:38 am to
IIRC the argument was refueling led to more overtakes happening in the pits instead of on track. There's an overcut when you go longer on lighter fuel and the victim of the overcut can't respond. We traded the refueling overcut for the tire strategy undercut which can be responded to theoretically resulting in more overtakes on track. I dont know if pre and post 2010 overtake numbers support this or not.
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 7:39 am
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2379 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:16 am to
quote:

The guy was universally fast and an extremely clean driver.


No mistakes. Just wears you down. You get bored, frustrated, do something stupid, and he's got you.
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