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Behind the Curtain: Dems' dark, deep hole

Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:34 am
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
7700 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:34 am
Interesting article, if it comes to pass, we'll be MAGA for a while.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/24/democrats-popularity-crisis-trump-elections

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Top Democrats tell us their party is in its deepest hole in nearly 50 years — and they fear things could actually get worse:

* The party has its lowest favorability ever.
* No popular national leader to help improve it.
* Insufficient numbers to stop most legislation in Congress.
* A durable minority on the Supreme Court.
* Dwindling influence over the media ecosystem, with right-leaning podcasters and social media accounts ascendant.
* Young voters are growing dramatically more conservative.
* A bad 2026 map for Senate races.
* Democratic Senate retirements could make it harder for the party to flip the House, with members tempted by statewide races.
* There are only three House Republicans in districts former Vice President Harris won in 2024, a dim sign for a Democratic surge. There were 23 eight years ago in seats Hillary Clinton won.

And, thanks to the number of people fleeing blue states, the math for a Dem to win the presidency will just get harder in 2030.

Why it matters: Both parties — after losing the White House, Senate and House — suffer and search for salvation. But rarely does healing seem so hard and redemption so distant.

* Doug Sosnik — a senior adviser to President Bill Clinton, and widely followed thinker on political megatrends — told us this is Dems' deepest hole in at least the 45 years since Ronald Reagan's victory in 1980. Sosnik said the 2024 election was at least as much a repudiation of Democrats as it was a victory for Trump.

As Ezra Klein noted this month in his New York Times column, if current population patterns hold, Democrats will suffer a devastating blow after the 2030 census: The party will lose as many as a dozen House seats and electoral votes.

?? He points out that in that Electoral College, Dems could win all the states Harris carried in 2024 — plus Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — and still lose the White House.





This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 1:36 am
Posted by DefCon1
Member since Dec 2017
772 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:49 am to
I thought you meant Crockett, the human Ghetto Blaster.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10728 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:34 am to
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Behind the Curtain: Dems' dark, deep hole

My first thought was Hillary Clinton
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14870 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:38 am to
Keep doubling down on stupid, I said it before they gonna take a arse kickin in mid terms
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3515 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:37 am to
The elimination of USAID grants is a YUGE blow to democrat prospects going forward. Democrat support has mostly been fabricated with billions of dollars in massive gaslighting campaigns.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11907 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:40 am to
Hope is good, action is better…
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7777 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:44 am to

They did it to themselves ….

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37289 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:52 am to
Well, first they went Marxist, then Pagan, and finally DEI with no Border. National suicide in service to virtue signaling isn’t very palatable in the minds of those who hope to build a life in the real World.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41294 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:10 am to
I remember when the Republican Party felt like this in 2012.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15124 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:27 am to
This is why they want Tren de Aragua here
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62654 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:34 am to
Most of this is behind a paywall, but it's pretty hilarious.
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Hoo, boy. Making Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (a.k.a. Vogue’s “Consummate Power Dresser”) the face of a left populist movement is the latest episode of the longest-running television show in history, How Will the American Left Screw Up This Time? It’s an instant entrant in the Hall of Fame of Bad Ideas, on par with a Hitler bobblehead day promotion or training orangutans to pack flatware. This will not end well:

Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez have been drawing big crowds crisscrossing the country on a “Fighting Oligarchy” tour that’s been billed as a pass-the-torch moment, with the Bronx congresswoman taking Bernie’s place as the avatar of what the Times calls “left-wing” populism.

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This is a rare opportunity for whatever constitutes the “real left” in America. Traditional Democrats are in freefall, with just 29% favorability in polls that also show just 7% answering “very favorable,” a shocking number. As commentators have noted, the party’s net unfavorability rating is reminiscent of the Republican Party’s numbers before Donald Trump arrived. The door is wide open; Bolivian Hemorrhagic Fever might outpoll a generic Democrat. It all makes the idea of an insurgency headed by AOC, practically a police sketch of the exact person Americans don’t want to vote for, a major head-scratcher.

AOC as a choice to replace Bernie would make sense to a Democratic Party consultant, who’d see woman, woman of color, and 12 million Twitter followers and think all boxes were checked. The original idea of a Sanders run, though, was a substance-over-style rebuke of party orthodoxy. Now Bernie is DNC-izing his own movement. Legacy outlets are already boosting the notion of AOC as a 2028 contender, which itself should scare Sanders, but somehow doesn’t. Why would the same press goons who smeared him for years suddenly embrace his successor?

Answer: AOC sanitizes the Bernie movement for traditional Democrats by bringing what the New York Times calls “a contemporary flourish to their shared progressive politics.” In other words, she’s replaced whatever hard edge Sanders ever had with woke gibberish.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
403 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:41 am to
thinking like this caused the Democrats to go full millenial LGBT, trans and open borders because the Republican Party was full of old white people and the Democrats had demographic destiny of young minorities on their side, how could they possibly lose an election again?

a defeat awaits if the Republicans want to do the same thing and begin implanting the policies of the extremist wing of their party ahead because they won an election against one of the most unpopular incumbent POTUS / VP ever.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66603 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:44 am to
quote:

, if it comes to pass, we'll be MAGA for a while.





I want to Believe that so bad, but don't be fooled, these cockroaches can rebound in a second.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
16063 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:50 am to
She’s getting fat, and sloppy.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
42679 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Top Democrats tell us their party is in its deepest hole in nearly 50 years — and they fear things could actually get worse:


I started a thread about 3 weeks ago regarding the fact that the Democrats are on life-support. Of course the usual suspects scoffed at it.

When polls show that AOC and Kama-lama-ding-dong are the leading contenders* for 2028, how could anybody not see how much trouble they're in? The ONLY THING they have now is trying to convince people that Trump is a monster who has to be stopped. If it weren't for the corrupt, bought-and-paid-for corporate media carrying their water, the Dems would be completely comatose.

* I don't think either AOC or Harris will end up being the nominee, but that's who clueless Democrat voters are saying they favor right now.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
758 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:52 am to
quote:

these cockroaches can rebound in a second.


We need about 35 years of straight MAGA at least to reverse what the Democrats have done.

But you're right, I thought in 1988 after Reagan, the left would never win again.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
16063 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:52 am to
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these cockroaches can rebound in a second

This for sure. Especially with the full throat of the mainstream media.
Hell, it appears even Fox is looking for the Democrats to get back on their feet so they’ll have more to talk about and not appear to be so one-sided. Which they aren’t if you pay attention.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38277 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:53 am to
Yet they got 48.3 of the vote for president. The math ain’t mathing
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1560 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Dems' dark, deep hole


Was that a dig at Jasmine Crocket?
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