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Ending anchor babies and birthright citizenship.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:30 pm
How soon can the US Congress and Senate get this legislation pushed through and sent to Trump for signing?
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:34 pm to BarberitosDawg
All it takes is an EO. Ann Coulter solved this riddle long ago. It all comes from a footnote in a SCOTUS decision - that is meaningless. It is not anchored to the 14th Amendment, which has been laid out in detail, time after time after time.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:36 pm to POTUS2024
Let’s get it done then!
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:40 pm to BarberitosDawg
Will need an amendment, unless you believe try-hard dullards like Ann Coulter
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:41 pm to POTUS2024
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All it takes is an EO. Ann Coulter solved this riddle long ago. It all comes from a footnote in a SCOTUS decision - that is meaningless. It is not anchored to the 14th Amendment, which has been laid out in detail, time after time after time.
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POTUS2024
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:41 pm to POTUS2024
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All it takes is an EO. .
It's not permanent enough, though.
Anything one pres can do by EO, another can undo by the same.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Will need an amendment, unless you believe try-hard dullards like Ann Coulter
Says the divorce lawyer. I’ll wait until a legal mind can weigh in.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:44 pm to Gifman
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I’ll wait until a legal mind can weigh in.
I've posted the relevant case about 10x here with in depth discussion on it.
Just look for the last birthright citizenship thread
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Will need an amendment,
There is enough wiggle room in the 14th Amendment to eliminate the birthright citizenship. The phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," could provide the cornerstone for such a decision. Activist courts have relied upon much less to craft a decision they favor (see e.g., Rowe vs Wade).
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:51 pm to POTUS2024
quote:It will take a favorable SCOTUS ruling or an Amendment.
All it takes is an EO.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I've posted the relevant case about 10x here with in depth discussion on it.
This may seem very dark and dystopian, but would it be legal for non-legal immigrant parents to lose the rights to their children if a child is born here?
In the sense that immigration violations being a felony, the child could be taken away from said parents who would no longer be able to anchor here.
Note, I'm not in anyway advocating for such a solution.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
You end all the anchor babies being born by deporting the family units. After the violent criminals, the family units are the most important group to deport. Besides rental assistance, food stamps, and free health insurance, the family units also get twelve years of free public school education for their non English speaking kids.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:he said legal mind
I've posted the relevant case about 10x here with in depth discussion on it.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:55 pm to blueridgeTiger
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The phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," could provide the cornerstone for such a decision.
That analysis/decision was made about 130 years (1898) ago by the USSC.
The people who try to ignore Wong Kim Ark b/c of perceived distinguishing facts (that really aren't, but I will stay focused) ignore the case goes into excruciating detail on exactly what you posted.
That phrase means anyone born here is a citizen other than (1) children of ambassadors and (2) children born in areas occupied/controlled by an enemy during a war/conflict.
The jurisprudence supporting the case has only grown from that case. The case for reversing it would require an entirely new paradigm for reversal that they established in Dobbs just a few years ago (aka, insane judicial chaos that we have never seen before).
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:55 pm to Narax
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but would it be legal for non-legal immigrant parents to lose the rights to their children if a child is born here?
They already do.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:57 pm to BarberitosDawg
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US Congress and Senate
Slept though civics?
The Senate is part of Congress buddy.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They already do.
I had no idea.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:05 pm to Narax
It's going to depend on the jurisdiction, and this is not my area of expertise, but if that person is deported, detained, or commits a crime in otherwise puts the child at risk, then they can lose their rights like anyone else
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:19 pm to BarberitosDawg
Having a child born in the United States is not reliable protection from deportation. Our government can and does deport illegals who have a child who was born in this country. In some cases, the child will be placed in a foster or group home. In other cases, they might be placed with a family member or friend of the family. It is also possible for the parents who have been deported to send for their children when they are settled in their home country.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:27 pm to MikeBRLA
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Slept though civics?
The Senate is part of Congress buddy.
There's confusion over this. And it's often done. Congress, by definition, the House of Representatives (Elected officials who are called Congressman) and the Senate.
Both are separate branches, with all that entails.
While technically... The House is a part of Congress, because of the title of their members, it's become acceptable and common, for many people to refer to the House as Congress.
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