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'Peg' guitar solo

Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:43 am
Posted by low end
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:43 am
As a shitty guitarist (read: bassist), can someone explain why the Peg guitar solo is revered the way that it is?

Sonically it doesn't sound too crazy, though I'm sure it is.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:05 am to
I never thought it was very good.
Posted by low end
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:17 am to
I don't think it's bad by any means, but compared to some of the other musicians/lines from Steely Dan songs, it just seems average.

But again, this is coming from the rhythm section so
Posted by Stan Switek
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:49 am to
There's a lot going on with this solo. Keep in mind that Jay Grayson essentially winged it after hearing the song (as was custom with guitar solos for Steely Dan, where they would have a parade of top session guys get one or 2 shots at a solo and then were dismissed).

It's interesting in a lot of ways, but most notably is the almost slack-key bends and slides that make up a good bit of the solo. For example, the first bend is a double bend that unbends, bends back again, slides up from the 8-7 to 12-12 (meaning that one finger slides 5 positions while one finger slides 4), then one finger in that 12 position bends 3/4 of a note.

While it's a hard solo to play, it nails the swing like feel of the song itself that makes it interesting. The slack key phrasing probably stood out amongst what were probably straightforward jazzier type solos that they had to choose from.
Posted by TheFretShack
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:27 am to
The thing that makes that solo so great is that it fits F&B's big picture for the song. Graydon's run feels like both the message and the mood of their lyrics.

quote:

Becker and Fagen brought in seven or eight guitarists to try the solo, and worked him for about six hours until he got it right .


https://www.songfacts.com/facts/steely-dan/peg
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:25 pm to
You misspelled "Reelin in the Years".
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:15 am to
+1000

Elliot Randall and Denny Diaz
Posted by Kevin Garvey
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:57 am to
Solo from 'Do It Again' is much better.

Was one of the more advanced songs to play on Guitar Hero.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:59 am to
That's a sitar played by Denny Diaz.
Posted by geauxjuice
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:45 am to
id hate to have to solo over a mu chord with donald fagen glaring at me
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

why the Peg guitar solo is revered the way that it is?


Cork sniffing Steeley Dan fans.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:03 pm to
They talk a good bit about this in the Yacht Rock documentary, which is very good btw.
Posted by buffbraz
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by DrewTheEngineer
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:31 am to
I don't have anything to say about that solo, but that album is really good.
Posted by A12 Oxcart
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:10 pm to
It's the epitome of the pretentiousness and perceived self-importance of Becker and Fagen.
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 12:37 am to
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It’s the epitome of pretentiousness….


And what’s so funny is in Fagan’s book, he really drives home the fact that they didn’t take themselves very seriously. He mentions that they never truly understood why legions of fans thought their music was so good. In fact, he talks about feeling quite uncomfortable around people offering praise.

All this was really disappointing to me. For example, Deacon Blues is one of my favorite songs of all time. I really felt those lyrics. So when I discovered the writing of them was done tongue in cheek, I was a little let down.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:38 am to
Watch Buffbraz’s link at about 4:10. I actually like some of the other ones they could have gone chosen.
Posted by geauxjuice
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:03 am to
quote:

Deacon Blues is one of my favorite songs of all time. I really felt those lyrics. So when I discovered the writing of them was done tongue in cheek, I was a little let down.


hilarious. a lot of their songs are send-ups of various types of losers. hey 19 and any major dude come to mind
Posted by A12 Oxcart
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 11:59 am to
quote:

And what’s so funny is in Fagan’s book, he really drives home the fact that they didn’t take themselves very seriously. He mentions that they never truly understood why legions of fans thought their music was so good. In fact, he talks about feeling quite uncomfortable around people offering praise.
That's rather odd, considering in most interviews I've seen him do he just oozes smarmy douchebag vibes. I've never seen him be self-deprecating or even remotely humorous.
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Never seen him be self deprecating.


One of my favorite examples of that was from a special they recorded shortly after they began touring live again. Wanna say early 90’s.

Anyway, the production crew was interviewing folks standing in line to get in to the show. They asked one girl about Steely Dan and she replied…I love Steely Dan, Year of the Cat is one of my favorite songs of all time.

The mere fact they didn’t edit that scene out told me they were probably a lot less serious than most folks believed.
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