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Blake Baker is a failure as DC and taking the next bus

Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:00 am
Looks like a rerun of Matt House as DC. Neither DC could get the defense off the field on 3rd and longs and neither DC could stop a running QB. Strange that other teams play Sellars (SC), Reed (A&M), Milroe (AL), and they don't get totally embarrassed play after play simply by the QB taking off straight up the middle.

As far as the "Nuss bus" goes, he is NOT improving. Still isn't remotely a running threat..not expecting Daniels but the defense know he isn't going to take off up the field. Defenses just bait him into throws. He stares down his receivers and predetermines where he is going to throw the ball. Daniels his first year at LSU was raw in areas but he worked hard to remedy his issues. Someone needs to lock Nussmeier in the VR room until he catches up to the speed of the major college game. I think I will wait for next bus...Nussmeier's bus is going nowhere!

Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8914 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:01 am to
What’s the common denominator?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21373 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:02 am to
Same players
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8914 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:03 am to
Yes…and Brian Kelly.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6708 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:04 am to
NOT A DEFNESE OF THE DEFENSE…. BUT


Baker has done a decent job with the talent he has.

As bad as the defense has been the last couple games, it’s really the offense (players and coaches) who cost us the games.

The defense didn’t drop a TD pass on the first drive

The defense didn’t fumble the ball away after a critical 4th down stop

The defense didn’t go on a 13 or so play drive to start the 3rd quarter only to throw a pick in the end zone

The defense isn’t the ones failing to run the ball or calling the worst sequence of plays every time we get to the red zone
Posted by mfiredog
Stonewall
Member since Oct 2016
702 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:07 am to
I agree that Baker isn’t the problem. Need we not forget what he did at Mizzou! The common denominator is Kelly (his fingers in game planning) and the subpar players! Not a Kelly fan but like the rest of the safe in some capacity
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15303 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:08 am to
quote:

As bad as the defense has been the last couple games, it’s really the offense (players and coaches) who cost us the games.


You’re trying to look at a single factor in costing us the games where it’s been the entire team being nowhere close to being capable of winning.

The QB isn’t good, the WRs aren’t good, the running backs aren’t good and the IOL isn’t good.

The defense has given up 14, 17, 7, 7 14 in the last 6 quarters.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75739 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:09 am to
Baker is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shite

Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9180 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:10 am to
The best coordinator on Earth can’t play with dogshit #8.

Dude is a complete disaster.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6708 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:11 am to
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The defense has given up 14, 17, 7, 7 14 in the last 6 quarters


Again I’m not saying the defense has been great.

But a lot of those scores you mention came off of short fields when Nuss and the offense turned the ball over in our own territory.

Yes it’s a team effort and team losses. But the defense has been better then expect for much of the year but far too frequently get set up to fail by the turnover machine running the offense.
Posted by mortis381
Member since Sep 2024
139 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:15 am to
At the end of the day, we knew we were missing the players necessary to be successful in the SEC at both DL and secondary. That hasn't changed. Baker has done enough with this group to make us think they were near that level, which means he's done a good job. We just don't have the dudes right now, but they are coming.


Regarding the QB right now, CFB requires a mobile QB now. You don't have to be a runner, but you have to run some. The QBs coming behind Nuss fit that mold. For Nuss to excel, he has to protect the ball in big games and he doesn't do that. We were all high on him earlier in the season, but the reality is that he is what his stats say he is. In SEC games, he's 56% completions with 8 TDs and 8 Ints and a 3-2 record.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15303 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:21 am to
The defense gave up 42 to a team that completed 12 passes last night, and it was the worst that team has been in 15 years.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Baker has done a decent job with the talent he has.

{comments about offense clipped}




You didn't address the specific defensive issues I brought up...the exact same defensive issues that Matt House was crucified for last season with similar players. Last year, House was blamed...not the players. Ssssoooo, this year Blake Baker gets blamed. Fair is fair. He has done a hideous job. And I didn't even bring up that bizarre and idiotic "I formation" he tried on defense a couple of times. Even the analyst predicted what would happen in the A&M game when he tried it. "They are simply going to run the ball with players that far off the LOS. Next play A&M did and got about 15 yards.

BTW, I included offensive incompetence in my original post...you just went off the subject and didn't even address the defensive issues at all. Baker has done the same type of job that House did. So if you give Baker a pass, you must have given House a pass too...exact same problems. One last point...people keep acting like the defense is talent deficient. You honestly believe that the LSU defense is worse talent wise that some of the other teams that have been able to slow down a running QB and get off the field on 3rd and long against teams? Seriously?
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3433 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:05 am to
Don’t forget what Jaden Daniels did against his defense at mizzou but Jayden did that against every defense he faced! But baker has yet to show he can stop a running qb!
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
840 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:18 am to
Review film with nuss . Either he improves or he sits . He had a tight end wide open across the middle for a first down , but threw into coverage down the field behind the receiver . He is soft , does not like contact and refuses to run for first downs even if it means we punt . He is not that accurate throwing on the run . Stares down receivers . I think he has talent , but is a priviledged spoiled kid with an over inflated idea of his ability . It is up to CBK to insist that either you do what I expect or you sit . Nothing wrong with that approach .
Posted by jacksajester
Metry
Member since Jun 2014
1960 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:21 am to
It’s not Bakers fault that Brian Kelly in incapable of recruiting above average players on defense.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Review film with nuss . Either he improves or he sits . He had a tight end wide open across the middle for a first down , but threw into coverage down the field behind the receiver . He is soft , does not like contact and refuses to run for first downs even if it means we punt . He is not that accurate throwing on the run . Stares down receivers . I think he has talent , but is a priviledged spoiled kid with an over inflated idea of his ability . It is up to CBK to insist that either you do what I expect or you sit . Nothing wrong with that approac

Definitely does not like contact. And people rant on BK. Well, in multiple media meetings, he has mentioned that it would help if Nussmeier would occasionally take off. when given an open field..GN has yet to do that. A QB who REFUSES to run at all is a dinosaur in today's game. And Nussmeier is a brontosaurus. That is a fact!

Also related to defense jacksajester wrote
quote:

It’s not Bakers fault that Brian Kelly in incapable of recruiting above average players on defense.

Yet, everyone on this forum last season was crucifying Matt House for not being a better DC. Uh yeah, it is exactly Baker's fault that the defense can't defend a running QB or give up so many 3rd and long conversions. Everyone said it was House's fault last season.
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 11:32 am
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
626 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:41 am to
BK has had 2 recruiting classes and that means they are underclassmen,
I guess that means LSU should win with inexperienced players.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
9577 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:43 am to
Legit perspective
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75830 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 11:44 am to
We’re objectively better than last year.

the last 6 quarters have been rough but we were rough for 52 quarters and honestly we’re a less talented defense than last year.

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