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Skenes is a ROY lock and a Cy Young contender and tGOAT

Posted on 9/22/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/22/24 at 9:48 pm
need thread started per Chicken’s request.

Had he played a full season at the rate he’d played for a little over half the season…

These stats would be his

18-5
1.99 ERA
204 innings
256 strikeouts
0.984 WHIP




This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 9:49 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91319 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 10:08 pm to
The Pirates guaranteed Skenes couldn’t win a Cy Young with his late call up.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104281 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 10:12 pm to
And Livvy hasn't stolen his manhood unlike Tswift did with Kelce.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88659 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 10:52 pm to
He’s climbing the list of greatest living Americans
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13203 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:44 am to
Kelce looks fat, slow and out of shape.
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3475 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:07 am to
While it would be cool if Skenes won RoY, I still think Jackson Merrill deserves it over him. He and Profar carried the Padres offense when others were out injured and the Padres are going to the playoffs because of it.

Skenes is just on a shite team and should have more wins than he has.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5053 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:

While it would be cool if Skenes won RoY, I still think Jackson Merrill deserves it over him. He and Profar carried the Padres offense when others were out injured and the Padres are going to the playoffs because of it.


I tend to agree in theory but the ROY is not the same as the "most valuable" rookie. It goes to the "most outstanding" rookie. I think under that criteria you should probably award it to Skenes but I do think a lot of voters will choose the player who was more valuable in terms of contributions like they do with the MVP award.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:26 am to
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He’s climbing the list of greatest living humans



FIFY.


I think the list is:

Trump
Tom Brady
Paul Skenes
Javier Milei
Gary Sinise.


Likely in that order though I’m willing to be swayed to have Skenes higher
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Had he played a full season
but he didn't
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60129 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:03 am to
quote:

but he didn't


Who said he did?

You retarded?
Posted by Masonjar62
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:39 pm to
Not how it works hotshot
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149428 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:40 pm to
So that's a stupid fricking thing to put out there
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53865 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:41 pm to
go watch the money game, at one point Skenes looked exasperated with Livvy and Livvy's sister is a piece of work
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:56 pm to
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watch the money game, at one point Skenes looked exasperated with Livvy and Livvy's sister is a piece of work

These dumb attention whore high maintenance chicks are going to eventually wear on any dude.

Not worth the excitement of the first 12 months or so to deal with their bullshite long term.
Posted by IggyReilly
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2015
164 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:23 pm to
I'd personally vote for Skenes and that's not just LSU homerism. If you asked any MLB team in a vacuum whether they'd want 22 games of Skenes' production or 151 games of Merrill's production they're taking Skenes 30 times out 30. Merrill has had a fantastic rookie season, but Skenes has been better.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149428 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

If you asked any MLB team in a vacuum whether they'd want 22 games of Skenes' production or 151 games of Merrill's production they're taking Skenes 30 times out 30
Merrill accumulated a full win more than Skenes this year
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Member since Nov 2011
38146 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Skenes is a ROY lock


Not according to Will Clark: LINK
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53865 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:36 pm to
starting pitching is at a premium in MLB right now
Merrill is a dime a dozen prospect
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Merrill accumulated a full win more than Skenes this year


Under what? According to the advanced stats on Baseball Reference, Skenes has been the more valuable player.

Skenes has a better RAA, WAA, RAR, and a 6 WAR compared to Merrill’s 4.3

*I see that fangraphs has Skenes with a lower WAR than Merrill: 4.2 vs 5.1 for Merrill
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted by IggyReilly
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2015
164 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Merrill accumulated a full win more than Skenes this year


On Fansgraph. BaseballReference has Skenes 1.7 WAR ahead of Merrill.

Maybe I am biased, I just think that what Skenes has done is way more impressive than what Merrill has done, even adjusting for the fact that Skenes only did it for 2/3rds of the season.

If I was a GM and you offered me 24 home runs and a .292/.326/.503 (128 OPS+) slashline for 151 games or 167 strikeouts, a 1.99 ERA (213 ERA+) and a 0.962 WHIP for 22 starts I'm taking Player B. Players with a season like Merrill's don't exactly grow on trees, but those guys are out there. Skenes' production has been on another level (even if it wasn't for a full season).
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