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Hypothetical: If America was split into two countries
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:35 pm
Let's just say both factions of this country mutually decided it was in the best interest to split the country into two nations, let's call them Conservastan and Woketopia. And a giant border wall with electrified razor wall and crocodiles moats was built and divided this country geographically. Each side was given 90 days to get their affairs in order and get to the side of the fence they wanted to live.
In this scenario, I believe you would see a few things occur.
First, all the so called centrists, moderates, and above the fray types would scratch and claw to get into Conservastan. Because even though these so called "independent thinkers" like to bitch about the right and find them unbecoming and in their eyes "top extreme". They know that conservative culture produces good fruit, they like to ridicule the farmer, but they enjoy the fruits of the farmer's harvest. They don't like the fruits the left produces, and they know it.
Second thing that would occur, is that within a few months, the leftist citizens of Woketopia, would be digging tunnels and breaking into Conservastan. They would go on and on about how it is selfish of Conservastan to not invite in weary travelers. And that the citizens of Conservastan were racist for not letting them in. Meanwhile, their country would be a hellscape, producing nothing of value, and filled with crime, degeneracy, and despair.
And then of course, within a few generations of Conservastan thriving and creating very comfortable and prosperous lives for all its citizens, the future generations would feel guilty about the successes. They would reject the prosperity created by their ancestors, and begin tearing down the wall and inviting in whatever hordes of orcs that have been festering in Woketopia for generations. They would say that it was necessary to bring in foreigners from Woketopia to Conservastan because of Diversity being a strength and it somehow would make Conservastan better.
Wash, rinse, repeat
In this scenario, I believe you would see a few things occur.
First, all the so called centrists, moderates, and above the fray types would scratch and claw to get into Conservastan. Because even though these so called "independent thinkers" like to bitch about the right and find them unbecoming and in their eyes "top extreme". They know that conservative culture produces good fruit, they like to ridicule the farmer, but they enjoy the fruits of the farmer's harvest. They don't like the fruits the left produces, and they know it.
Second thing that would occur, is that within a few months, the leftist citizens of Woketopia, would be digging tunnels and breaking into Conservastan. They would go on and on about how it is selfish of Conservastan to not invite in weary travelers. And that the citizens of Conservastan were racist for not letting them in. Meanwhile, their country would be a hellscape, producing nothing of value, and filled with crime, degeneracy, and despair.
And then of course, within a few generations of Conservastan thriving and creating very comfortable and prosperous lives for all its citizens, the future generations would feel guilty about the successes. They would reject the prosperity created by their ancestors, and begin tearing down the wall and inviting in whatever hordes of orcs that have been festering in Woketopia for generations. They would say that it was necessary to bring in foreigners from Woketopia to Conservastan because of Diversity being a strength and it somehow would make Conservastan better.
Wash, rinse, repeat
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:37 pm to burger bearcat
You'd split the country into three parts. Central and two coastal.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:38 pm to burger bearcat
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And then of course, within a few generations of Conservastan thriving and creating all very comfortable and prosperous lives for all its citizens, the future generations would feel guilty about the successes. They would reject the prosperity created by their ancestors, and begin tearing down the wall and inviting in whatever hordes of orcs that have been festering in Woketopia for generations. They would say that it was necessary to bring in Woketopia to Conservastan because of Diversity being a strength.
Probably
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:40 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:No, two entities:
You'd split the country into three parts. Central and two coastal.
1. America
2. A confederation of city-states a la ancient Greece
We get the land, they get the people
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:42 pm to burger bearcat
I have my doubts it would be some conservative eden.
For some reason our politics drive to a 50/50 split. A few generations in, each separate country would probably be right back to this same divide.
For some reason our politics drive to a 50/50 split. A few generations in, each separate country would probably be right back to this same divide.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 6:04 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:45 pm to burger bearcat
More like 5 countries.
This is pretty close
This is pretty close
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:45 pm to burger bearcat
I’d think we could work something out where we could exist peacefully as different countries.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:45 pm to burger bearcat
It really would work because major city shitholes are the only place you find large numbers of liberals. Most of the nation is made up of conservatives.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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I have my doubts it would be some conservative eden.
For some reason our politics drive to a 50/50 split. A few generations in each separate country would probably be right back to this same divide.
Human nature always seems to do itself in. It is almost inevitable. It requires constant vigilance to fight back against our worst impulses.
This is why I can't get into libertarianism. It doesn't account for this, it thinks we can just be governed by some sort of vague idealogy (that can easily be manipulated) or a piece of paper (that can also be manipulated in the wrong hands). It's laughable.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:51 pm to ItNeverRains
MO and KY would be pissed!
Also, AZ would get what they deserve.
Also, AZ would get what they deserve.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:52 pm to burger bearcat
quote:its as religiously Utopian as Socialism
This is why I can't get into libertarianism
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:02 pm to burger bearcat
If you want to read a good fictional story about a split/divorce of America, read this novel. The People’s Republic, Kelly Turnbull series, book 1.
Amazon
Amazon
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:04 pm to Sofaking2
quote:Until Wokestan was broke and starving then they would declare war on us.
I’d think we could work something out where we could exist peacefully as different countries.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:05 pm to burger bearcat
Read the Kelly Turnbull book series. Describes this scenario pretty well.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:06 pm to burger bearcat
As good as it sounds, it will never happen.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:10 pm to ItNeverRains
Don’t be putting Kentucky in there with those damned Yankees.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:12 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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Don’t be putting Kentucky in there with those damned Yankees.
As a Kentuckian, we probably get what we deserve after electing the lisping soy boy Beshear governor twice.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:12 pm to jrobic4
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MO and KY would be pissed!
I believe most of Iowa, Indiana and all of rural Ohio would be too.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:14 pm to ItNeverRains
SEC would have a hell of a football team and army with all the gun nut rednecks.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:49 pm to ItNeverRains
West Virginia and Colorado would not fit in with the rest of their groups.
Almost everyone in green area outside of NYC, Philly, and DC is going to hate their lives being dictated by those 3 cities.
Midwest is interesting because Illinois and Minnesota have some whackjob politics but do those states have enough population to run Rustbeltistan politics?
Almost everyone in green area outside of NYC, Philly, and DC is going to hate their lives being dictated by those 3 cities.
Midwest is interesting because Illinois and Minnesota have some whackjob politics but do those states have enough population to run Rustbeltistan politics?
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