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25 HP Tractor

Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:14 pm
I am in the market for a 25 or so HP tractor and I am curious if anyone has any input on New Holland, Massey Ferguson, Bobcat and any brand other than John Deere and Kubota. Either of those would be an obvious choice and probably what I go with but outside of those 2 prices seem about the same for all the others new or used with 100 -300 hours on them. There is a dealer for almost everything within 30 miles from me.

Any brands / models to avoid?

Also can I get by with a 23 HP tractor? Doesn't seem to be a lot of difference in specs between say 22 and 24.5 HP. Will use it for digging and moving gravel and light grading and feeding the saw mill with 12 -16 foot SYP 18 inches in diameter. They weigh about 800 pounds. No food plots or mowing or that sort of thing. Anyone have any input?

I have looked at a couple of JD 3025s but that a lot more tractor than I probably need.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 2:24 pm to
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12 -16 foot SYP 18 inches in diameter. They weigh about 800 pounds.

I'm no expert but I had a Kubota B26 for a few years and 800lbs would be a lot for it to handle. Not impossible with planning and easing into it but I wouldn't want to do it all day everyday on that machine and it was built as a TLB.

Specs Kubota B26
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
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I'm no expert but I had a Kubota B26 for a few years and 800lbs would be a lot for it to handle. Not impossible with planning and easing into it but I wouldn't want to do it all day everyday on that machine and it was built as a TLB.

Specs Kubota B26


most of the time it will pushing them up a ramp of smaller logs but will have to lift them some with the rear hitch. I mostly roll them now by hand....but getting them situated from the piles is a LOT of damned hard work LOL...

I see some CRAZY numbers thrown around by all of the manufactures about their loader lifting capacities. If they are remotely close a 20HP machine would do it....they have to be exaggerating.....
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28273 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 3:18 pm to
You will need really good counter weight on the other end of the tractor to be able to pick that up.

the Deere 300E (goes on the 3025 up to the 3038) can lift 845 lbs.

ETA: The pucker factor for me increases immensely when I have something heavy in the bucket and the tractor starts leaning on 2 or 3 wheels.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted by meltingman
Member since Jun 2017
152 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 7:40 pm to
I recommend Kubota. I know you are looking for input on other brands. After much research I went with a Kubota L2502 earlier this year. I have 495 acres of mostly timber. We have trails and a few small food plots. It has been great for the work you are looking to do. I mostly use it to maintain trails. Grapple is my favorite attachment.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
47016 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:15 pm to
I have a bobcat 25, love it
light duty only (moving shite around, loading and unloading dirt/mulch/gravel), pulling stuff, etc

it’s very nice and very comfortable to run
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4181 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:26 pm to
I have a 1626 Mahindra 25 HP and it is a beast. Lifts over 1100 pounds with the front loader. No complaints from me.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26336 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:40 pm to
I have a 30HP Kubota, and when I tell you I have put it through hell, I mean it. Have cleared almost 50 acres of woods using a grapple. If you know anything about working in the woods with a tractor, you know it beats the hell out of them

Not a single mechanical issue to date. Turn the key and it fires up. I would never be able to recommend or purchase any other brand of small tractor.
Posted by Dylan
Bayou Barbary
Member since May 2009
3737 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:19 am to
We own a tractor dealership in Livingston called Hill’s Equipment. We sell Massey and yanmar new, but have sold every tracror listed as trade ins or used tractors to flip.

With 25 hp you won’t have to worry about regen or any of that on any model. We’ve had good luck with most all tractors in that size range mechanically outside of the 1626 mahindras. We’ve had 2 with under 250 hours with clutches that went out. We’ve also had some starter/Solenoid issues on one.

The kubota 2501 has been the most popular we’ve sold as far as used, BUT the loaders are not nearly as strong as some other models. Not a huge fan of their steering system and front tires have a cambered feel a lot of times. Over all solid tracror though.

John Deere 3025 have great turning radius, but plastic hood and fenders, cast loader brackets so not easily repeatable things. If you get a HST their pump is the loudest by far, also could just be my experience, but rats love chewing their wires. Lol also never had issue with the 3025, but seen a ton of computer issues out of the 3032 and 3038s. Stay away from the 1025r as John Deere just released a huge service bulletin about not operating them because of a huge recal issue that spans to like 2018 or something crazy. John Deere also uses their own style of quick connect bucket which can be inconvenient.

The Masseys 1825 they are changing now so we don’t currently have any of the new 25 hps, but the old ones were great. Loader out lifted the weight of the tractor so be sure to have a counterweight. Never any issues out of them besides couple wiring issues in a batch during covid where Massey used another company for wiring harnesses and had a bad batch.

I personally LOVE what yanmar is doing. 10 year factory warranty, and as a dealer we get to see what tractors have the highest return percentage for warranty work and in the 60 hp and below yanmar has the lowest return for warranty work across the industry, but in the 25 hp they’re smaller framed. The 425s are great but smaller and don’t have the skid steer quick connect bucket. Great price and quality tractor though.

The new Holland I’ve only ever sold 2 in the 25-35 hp range and don’t have much feed back. They worked as they should, but I didn’t really test them.

We had a couple LS that were surprisingly very hard to sell. One 35 hp LS that had very loud belt squeal for tractor with 180 hours and skid steer quick connect froze up, but could happen with any tractor not greased or worked that set up.

Hope this helped somewhat. Whatever you get good luck and if you’re in the Livingston area come check us out even If you want to buy a trailer or implements and not a tractor.

We also have a great hunting inventory from stands to cameras to boots and whatever else you can think of. If you buy a tractor from us I’ll throw you a free xbow! Lol

Good luck with whatever you get!
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 5:57 am to
Find a LStractor dealer and look at their inventory. Solid trsctor brand and less than JD and Kubota.
Posted by Bolivar Shagnasty
Your mothers corner
Member since Aug 2017
723 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 6:22 am to
Tractor HP is like a penis or boobies. You always want bigger than you think you'll need. If you think a 25HP will get it done. Go with a 32/34 HP.

Better to have it and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
13537 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 6:37 am to
Thank you for the great information.

I have been looking at the MF 1825. Seems to be a good price and looking at used MF seem to hold resell value pretty well. We have a couple of dealers locally so parts and service shouldn't be an issue.

I have looked at a Solis 24 and it looks like a great tractor but someone on this board pointed out that resell valued may be pretty bad on some of the off brand tractors. I am only going to run a saw mill 3-4 years and I am going to be done with it and will be selling the tractor, would like to not take too big a hit and it makes sense that name brands would be recognizable to folks like me who aren't experienced tractor owners. Have pretty much decided against Solis although the price is still pretty attractive LOL.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 6:40 am to
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Tractor HP is like a penis or boobies. You always want bigger than you think you'll need. If you think a 25HP will get it done. Go with a 32/34 HP.

Better to have it and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it.



I take your point and it is well founded however I have been challenged for the better part of 59 years in one of these 3 categories (wasn't a problem until I was 14 or so but has been since LOL) and I have become very adapt at finding alternative methods of using what I have to get the job done...adapt from the point that MY goals were satisfied....
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2073 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 6:52 am to
Kioti CK2610 has very good lift capacity and are basically the same tractor and hydraulics as the 35 hp model but are detuned to avoid emissions. It's pretty simple to adjust the fuel regulator to get the full power of the engine if you ever felt the need.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
932 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 7:22 am to
quote:

Kioti CK2610


I had pretty much settled on one of these last year when I was ready to buy. Things slowed down for my wife and I had to put it off. Buck is right, it's very easy to adjust and get 35hp out of these tractors, just not sure i'd do it during warranty.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19137 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 7:31 am to
Service is key will they make house calls do you have a trailer & truck to haul it? Look at the Kioto I have known several people have them love them.
Kubota 0% for 60 mos
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by weisertiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Sep 2007
2518 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 8:06 am to
I have heard that Mahindra is really slow to get parts to dealers so I would consider that
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28273 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

MF seem to hold resell value pretty well.


Just a little info for you. I bought my tractor in '21 (Deere 5075e 4x4 with cab).

I current have just over 200 hours on it. Paid right at 36k for just the tractor plus taxes. The implements cost about the same as the tractor.

You can look it up and you will find '21 5000e series tractors for sale in the upper 40s. It's insane.

I say this to say that tractors are overpriced right now and I think we may see a correction in the next few years. Same with boats.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13537 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Just a little info for you. I bought my tractor in '21 (Deere 5075e 4x4 with cab).

I current have just over 200 hours on it. Paid right at 36k for just the tractor plus taxes. The implements cost about the same as the tractor.

You can look it up and you will find '21 5000e series tractors for sale in the upper 40s. It's insane.

I say this to say that tractors are overpriced right now and I think we may see a correction in the next few years. Same with boats.



You are spot on. Prices seem insane. 20 HP tractors around $20K? I have a 18hp riding lawnmower I paid about $1500 for in 2021. I understand its not a tractor by any stretch but if there is $18,500 worth of difference it must be some gold lining in the fuel tank LOL. Unfortunately I have about 70,000 board feet of SYP on the ground right now going to rack and ruin - its going to rack and ruin as we speak....the piles are buzzing like a chainsaw is idling in the center of them and it ain't cicadas because they're gone. I have milled about 7000 BF of it by rolling, snatching, jerking and shear will power and its been fine but its only a matter of time and not much of that before it is beyond use. It was marginally useful to begin with since it is not going to be kiln dried or grade stamped but I am planning on using it for board and batten siding and building some uninspected sheds but if I spend more time rolling and cussing those damned logs most of it is not even going to be fit for that. Had to take them all down to take any of them down....or pay about 5 times as much as I did. I am seriously rethinking my thinking LOL....

This is one of the reasons I had originally planned on buying a solis. The 24.5 HP HST drive is less than $16K out the door (Cash). I can't imagine their prices dropping much over the next couple of years without an event that makes me not need a tractor anymore anyhow. If current trends hold it may not cost me anything more than fuel to use it instead of my strong back (not so strong as it once was) and weak mind (way weaker than it once was).
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
13537 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Service is key will they make house calls do you have a trailer & truck to haul it? Look at the Kioto I have known several people have them love them.
Kubota 0% for 60 mos


We have a dealer about 20 miles from the house and I have a truck and a trailer but they seem pretty pricey. Have seen some used ones within a 150 miles from the house about the same price as new without taxes so resell value is good in the current market. Definitely have looked at some online, not in person.
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