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Question for the self proclaimed campaign strategy experts on how Trump is doing it wrong.

Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Wulverine
Member since Jul 2024
31 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:14 pm
Did Ronnie "Meatball" DeSantis follow your "expert" strategy?

If so, what happened?
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37183 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:19 pm to
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Question for the self proclaimed campaign strategy experts on how Trump is doing it wrong.
Why, evidently, must support for Trump come in the form of lockstep, complete lack of critique?

He has an absolute lock on ~40% of his "base". That is great. However, he needs to get some of the soft middle to come his way to win. Basically nobody in the 40% is changing their vote, so he should develop the POLITICAL SKILL of appealing to those in the middle. And he appears to be terrible at that.

He's, again, losing to a candidate that isn't even hardly out there. At what point do any of you look in the mirror?
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3934 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:22 pm to
I support his stance on the largest issues and I’m not on his campaign advisory team.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3895 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

He has an absolute lock on ~40% of his "base". That is great. However, he needs to get some of the soft middle to come his way to win. Basically nobody in the 40% is changing their vote, so he should develop the POLITICAL SKILL of appealing to those in the middle. And he appears to be terrible at that.


I was about to type exactly that. He can’t run off his core voter, but he’s alienating those outside of his core. His core probably won’t be enough.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37183 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:26 pm to
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I was about to type this exactly that. He can’t run off his core voter, but he’s alienating those outside of his core. His core probably won’t be enough.
His core is absolutely not enough. He is terrible at pivoting. He's campaigning against a different candidate now. The age/competence issue has now been tilted AGAINST him. And the Kamala team seems to be willing to do things that it takes to win - such as throwing a litany of inane populist programs out there...basically, pandering. We all know price gouging isn't a real thing in Economics. She probably even knows that. But she also appears to know that most people DON'T know that and so therefore it's smart to talk about what you're going to do to stop it.

It's weird to me now that we're complaining Trump isn't showman enough. He needs to get the stick out if his arse and start doing the same shite she is.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88280 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:28 pm to
How excited are you to be a man for harris?

Which policies do you likw the best? Kommie controlled food prices?

Or free money down payments for housing
Posted by Wulverine
Member since Jul 2024
31 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:30 pm to
So it's the electorates fault Meatball lost?

quote:

Why, evidently, must support for Trump come in the form of lockstep, complete lack of critique?

He has an absolute lock on ~40% of his "base". That is great. However, he needs to get some of the soft middle to come his way to win. Basically nobody in the 40% is changing their vote, so he should develop the POLITICAL SKILL of appealing to those in the middle. And he appears to be terrible at that.

He's, again, losing to a candidate that isn't even hardly out there. At what point do any of you look in the mirror?
Posted by Wulverine
Member since Jul 2024
31 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:34 pm to
Did you "critique" meatball also or is that different?

quote:

Why, evidently, must support for Trump come in the form of lockstep, complete lack of critique?
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40287 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:41 pm to
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Did you "critique" meatball also or is that different?


Still waiting on an explanation of why TopGuv won Florida by 20% and Trump is only up on Kamala by like 4%?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37183 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

How excited are you to be a man for harris?
I'm sorry, I don't know any.

I voted for Trump in 2020, have been promoting his victory in 2024 and recently attended a private fundraising event (just after Biden pulled out) for a republican senatorial candidate in a highly relevant battleground state. Everyone there was massively pro Trump, including the insiders and machers, and all saying the same thing - Kamala absolutely can win if Trump doesn't get his head out of his arse. He already squandered the assassination bump and seems literally incapable of appealing to anyone other than his (admittedly very substantial) base. Some of these people have direct communication with him on a weekly (or more frequent) basis.

I want him to win - unlike you who evidently just wants to suck him off and hope for the best. How excited are you to be a man for sucking Trump's dick?
Posted by Wulverine
Member since Jul 2024
31 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:44 pm to


quote:

Still waiting on an explanation of why TopGuv won Florida by 20% and Trump is only up on Kamala by like 4%?


Still waiting on you to explain how one correlates to the other.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 7:46 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133833 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Question for the self proclaimed campaign strategy experts
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40287 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Still waiting on you to explain how one correlates to the other.


When it comes to winning over moderate voters apparently not

I was told by Cobra Tate and the rest of this board that Trump turned Florida red and Ron had nothing to do with it
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59882 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:54 pm to
Trump acts like normal Trump - “muh he needs to stick to policy”

Trump talks policy- “muh he’s so boring I can’t even listen to him”


Posted by Wulverine
Member since Jul 2024
31 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Still waiting on an explanation of why TopGuv won Florida by 20% and Trump is only up on Kamala by like 4%


TopGuv? When did meatball graduate from flight school?





This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Question for the self proclaimed campaign strategy experts on how Trump is doing it wrong.


If Trump wins, everyone will know that the opinion that he was doing it wrong was mistaken.

If he loses, everyone will know that they were right.

We'll know in less than three months.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6866 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

He is terrible at pivoting


Did you listen to the Musk interview? The man said exactly what he did during his presidency and how those decisions were effective.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6866 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

I voted for Trump in 2020, have been promoting his victory in 2024 and recently attended a private fundraising event (just after Biden pulled out) for a republican senatorial candidate in a highly relevant battleground state. Everyone there was massively pro Trump, including the insiders and machers, and all saying the same thing - Kamala absolutely can win if Trump doesn't get his head out of his arse. He already squandered the assassination bump and seems literally incapable of appealing to anyone other than his (admittedly very substantial) base. Some of these people have direct communication with him on a weekly (or more frequent) basis.



Anybody swanky enough to be talking to trump every week, and going to a senators in-crowd cocksucker party, probably can’t fathom what the average Joe is voting for or against.

Congrats on the shrimp cocktail though.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31283 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:23 pm to
I remember them saying the exact same thing when Biden was the supposed candidate

Trump shouldnt even break a sweat until after the convention and he sees who he will actually be running against. Switch me once, same on you. Switch me twice, scorch the earth
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40287 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:25 pm to
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Wulverine


Whose alter is this?
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