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Electricians - need help with hot tub wiring
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:02 pm
So the hot tub I am looking at says you need 240v/60a, 4 wire.
I am assuming I can do this. 60 amp breaker at main panel inside. Run thhn/thwn in 1 inch conduit through ceiling outside along house to disconnect box. Then wire from disconnect to the spa panel.
Am I missing anything?
I am assuming I can do this. 60 amp breaker at main panel inside. Run thhn/thwn in 1 inch conduit through ceiling outside along house to disconnect box. Then wire from disconnect to the spa panel.
Am I missing anything?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:41 pm to Boss
What size is your service and do you have the open slots required to add the breaker.. You want a GFCI Breaker to meet code. How long will the wire run be from your panel to the hot tub.
Considering the hazards of doing things wrong with electricity and a hot tub, if you haven't done much electrical work around your house, you should probably pay someone to do this.
Considering the hazards of doing things wrong with electricity and a hot tub, if you haven't done much electrical work around your house, you should probably pay someone to do this.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:48 pm to mdomingue
I’ve done electrical. I have plenty of room in my pony panel. Inside the run will be about 25 feet. Then outside it’ll be 15 to the disconnect box.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:04 pm to Boss
If your total length is less than 50 feet then you would use AWG 4 and AWG 3 for up to 150 feet. If you feel comfortable doing the work then it ain't rocket science. Good luck, I would avoid the urge to not skip on the GFCI, if there is a place you really really want one, this is it.

Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:10 pm to Boss
60A calls for at least 5AWG wire. Conduit must be >= 1.25 inch for 4x conductors that size.
ETA should be 1.5” for 4x 4awg in pvc.
ETA should be 1.5” for 4x 4awg in pvc.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:22 pm to Dallaswho
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Conduit must be >= 1.25 inch for 4x conductors that size.
Thanks, Dallas, I didn't even think about checking his conduit size

Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:25 pm to Boss
You can just run you some 6/3 SER through your attic down the wall and out of the house and mount you a junction box close to where you’re going to power up the hot tub and go from there
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:31 pm to Dallaswho
I thought 6/3 thnn was rated to 75A. Is it not?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:43 pm to Boss
Thhn yes. 6awg ok. My bad. I’m 15 Busch lights deep and looked at the 40c table.
Still need 1.25 pvc though.
ETA I could pretend I was right with 5awg and voltage drop yada yada, but 6awg is the right answer.
Still need 1.25 pvc though.
ETA I could pretend I was right with 5awg and voltage drop yada yada, but 6awg is the right answer.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:46 am to papasmurf1269
quote:
You can just run you some 6/3 SER
OP states that 4 wire is needed.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 7:28 am to Dallaswho
quote:
I could pretend I was right with 5awg
You'd have that dude on wild goose chase looking for unobtanium.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:50 am to Boss
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:24 am to 2 Jugs
quote:6/3 is a four wire. It has a black, red,white and a ground. You are thinking of 6/2
OP states that 4 wire is needed.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:07 am to Dallaswho
Question. Do I need 6 g ground or 8 or 10 is sufficient. It says that 4 wires will fit in 3/4 conduit. Why do I need 1.25. Will smaller cause more heat?
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:21 am to Boss
you’re not gonna be able to pull 6/3 jacketed cable thru 3/4 conduit. It will physically fit but not pull.
1-1/4 or 1-1/2 if you want to pull it
And yes 6/3 is 4-wire. if you want to save some money you can look at aluminum which is much cheaper than copper
1-1/4 or 1-1/2 if you want to pull it
And yes 6/3 is 4-wire. if you want to save some money you can look at aluminum which is much cheaper than copper
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:44 am to papasmurf1269
quote:
6/3 is a four wire. It has a black, red,white and a ground. You are thinking of 6/2
There is 6/3 w/GND which has 4 wires and 6/3 which has 3 wires.
Been 4 years since I got out of the design world but this is how it was labeled.
My point is for OP to not assume it has a ground.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:02 pm to 2 Jugs
I’m doing thnn anyway so single strand
Posted on 8/11/24 at 3:50 pm to Boss
quote:
Question. Do I need 6 g ground or 8 or 10 is sufficient. It says that 4 wires will fit in 3/4 conduit. Why do I need 1.25. Will smaller cause more heat?
I think you can downsize the neutral in the feeder and the ground in the equipment branch but would rather not advise.
Must follow manufacturer’s instructions.
All wires total can only occupy 40% of conduit space if there are three or more in there.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:54 pm to Dallaswho
What is easier to pull NMB or putting conduit and thhn? My basement is finishing, and it's gonna be a pain in the arse pulling schedule 40 conduit.
Could I do this?
60 amp at house breaker.
4 awg NMB until I hit the exterior wall.
Junction box and change over to 4 wire 6 THHN.
Exit junction box in conduit (this will be a 15 foot straight run to disconnect box).
Is that easier/better/worse?
Could I do this?
60 amp at house breaker.
4 awg NMB until I hit the exterior wall.
Junction box and change over to 4 wire 6 THHN.
Exit junction box in conduit (this will be a 15 foot straight run to disconnect box).
Is that easier/better/worse?
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