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re: Pelicans are not expected to offer BI extension this offseason, moving in new direction
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:34 am to Soggymoss
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:34 am to Soggymoss
They are at $174M right now. The tax line is $171M
That's with CP3 and no Klay. That's 11 players.
If they let CP3 go, they still need to resign Klay, and here's the big one, they actually have to get better.
So they let CP3 go and they are $27M under the tax with 10 rostered players, and are going to resign Klay and fill out the roster with minimums and stay under the tax? That's a team that doesn't get better while the rest of the West outside of Blazers, and depending on what the Jazz do, are all better than them.
I have no idea what kind of contract they are going to give Klay, but I would bet money he'll get more money if he wants to go sign elsewhere. The Magic and Sixers would probably throw a good bit of change at him.
But as i said, if they lose CP3 and Klay, and don't really recoup a good player in the S&T they might try to do, then what are they really doing? They are going to be a bottom 10 team with Steph making $50M+ and probably 2 good years left to win something at best?
I guess it makes sense, if Steph is ok with it, to just play it out and retire there and not be that good while helping the young guys.
I think about if from Steph's point of view. he's got a family that's lived in the same area their whole life, and i doubt they want to move. Steph has achieved a tremendous amount in his career and doesn't have anythign else to prove.
That's with CP3 and no Klay. That's 11 players.
If they let CP3 go, they still need to resign Klay, and here's the big one, they actually have to get better.
So they let CP3 go and they are $27M under the tax with 10 rostered players, and are going to resign Klay and fill out the roster with minimums and stay under the tax? That's a team that doesn't get better while the rest of the West outside of Blazers, and depending on what the Jazz do, are all better than them.
I have no idea what kind of contract they are going to give Klay, but I would bet money he'll get more money if he wants to go sign elsewhere. The Magic and Sixers would probably throw a good bit of change at him.
But as i said, if they lose CP3 and Klay, and don't really recoup a good player in the S&T they might try to do, then what are they really doing? They are going to be a bottom 10 team with Steph making $50M+ and probably 2 good years left to win something at best?
I guess it makes sense, if Steph is ok with it, to just play it out and retire there and not be that good while helping the young guys.
I think about if from Steph's point of view. he's got a family that's lived in the same area their whole life, and i doubt they want to move. Steph has achieved a tremendous amount in his career and doesn't have anythign else to prove.
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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:47 am to TeddyPadillac
I never said anything about them getting better, but they can keep those 3 together and still stay under the tax, they don’t have to blow up anything.
And they still have Steph who has shown he’s capable of carrying them to a championship without a great surrounding cast if things shake out right
And they still have Steph who has shown he’s capable of carrying them to a championship without a great surrounding cast if things shake out right
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:52 am to TeddyPadillac
I just fundamentally disagree on BI's value with some of you.
BI getting benched and outplayed by Josh Hart last summer on the US team. BI continuing to shoot fewer and fewer 3s. BI gets hurt once again - this one wasn't a major blow since he came back. However...BI had the worst playoffs of probably any player considered a top 3 player on their team.
No, factor in his upcoming salary. His stock is maybe as low as it's ever been since the blood clot issue. He's just not a very attractive player at his salary IMO.
Herb on the other hand was one of the few guys who actually played half decent in the playoffs for us. Is the perfect teammate. Rarely misses games and is on a great contract.
That's the guy I'm keeping.
And I think Allen has clearly jumped ahead of BI in value at this point. Murray is probably equal.
I feel like this is an argument people would be having about Carmelo 5-6 years ago. People still thought that dude was good years after he wasn't. That's kind of what BI is becoming imo.
BI getting benched and outplayed by Josh Hart last summer on the US team. BI continuing to shoot fewer and fewer 3s. BI gets hurt once again - this one wasn't a major blow since he came back. However...BI had the worst playoffs of probably any player considered a top 3 player on their team.
No, factor in his upcoming salary. His stock is maybe as low as it's ever been since the blood clot issue. He's just not a very attractive player at his salary IMO.
Herb on the other hand was one of the few guys who actually played half decent in the playoffs for us. Is the perfect teammate. Rarely misses games and is on a great contract.
That's the guy I'm keeping.
And I think Allen has clearly jumped ahead of BI in value at this point. Murray is probably equal.
I feel like this is an argument people would be having about Carmelo 5-6 years ago. People still thought that dude was good years after he wasn't. That's kind of what BI is becoming imo.
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