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re: Albert Breer of SI: How the Falcons, Vikings and Broncos Got Their QBs.....
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Going for it 4th and less than 5 every time is “unconventional”. Sometimes doing something unexpected is just stupid. This is one of those cases. It’s a sport with a 53 man roster and a salary cap. It’s the one position where you can’t have 2 players, it doesn’t work and not because the “mob” says so. All this bs about “hedging” or insurance is just excuses.
You guys do know that sitting QB'S used to be the norm
Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco took that thinking out the window.
The 2004 QB class, one of the best ever, Eli didn't start till November of that year once the Giants were done, Ben only started due to Tommy Maddox getting hurt, and Rivers didn't start until the end of year 2. Two are going to Canton and the other one (Rivers) is borderline.
This was the precedent for years, until 2008. (Flacco and Ryan)
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:18 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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You guys do know that sitting QB'S used to be the norm
Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco took that thinking out the window.
The rookie wage scale took that thinking out the window.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:34 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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It's essentially a two-year deal w/an option for a 3rd.
The 4th year is a dummy year to help with the cap number.
Which means there would be a big dead cap hit if move on from Cousins before 2027.
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You guys do know that sitting QB'S used to be the norm
Not for 3 years
at least since the 70s maybe. Not starting Penix snap one isn’t the problem. Though he’s stated 49 games over 6 years in college. How much “sitting” does he need? quote:
Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco took that thinking out the window.
Peyton Manning and David Carr started snap one as rookies. Tim Couch started 15 games. Vince Young started 13 and played in 15 games and won ROY.
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The 2004 QB class
That’s before the 2011 CBA. The contracts were different.
Warner was only with the Giants for 1 year, i don’t remember honestly but perhaps they brought him to mentor Eli? But unlike the Falcons 20 years later his deal did not destroy their cap for 3 years. Maddox was journeyman he was hot garbage i seriously doubt he starts the entire year but regardless of why Ben got his first start it shows sitting QBs is not necessary.
SD had Brees who they drafted in 2001 but had struggled. I don’t think it was the best move to take a rookie QB that early (they actually had the 1 pick but traded Eli to the Giants) my guess they were planning to move on from Brees but he played well and they won in 2004. They franchised him in 2005 and let him walk after that year. Not exactly a good model on how to handle QBs
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