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re: Is the reason the left has gone so whacko and extreme because of Trump?

Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:07 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:07 am to
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The started with Obama.

This is like Israel-Hamas. You can pick basically any President since the 60s and say it started there.

Nixon was a reaction to the DEMs (mostly JFK)
Carter was a reaction to Nixon
Reagan was a reaction to Carter
Clinton was a reaction to Reagan/GHWB
Bush was a reaction to Clinton
Obama was a reaction to Bush
Trump was a reaction to Obama
"Biden" was a reaction to Trump

It's a framing argument. There were varying levels of escalation/reaction in each administration.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18816 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:16 am to
In this case it boils down to a simple fact. If i dont take your money/need your money you cant control me
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4177 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:25 am to
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Nixon was a reaction to the DEMs (mostly JFK)
Carter was a reaction to Nixon
Reagan was a reaction to Carter
Clinton was a reaction to Reagan/GHWB
Bush was a reaction to Clinton
Obama was a reaction to Bush
Trump was a reaction to Obama
"Biden" was a reaction to Trump


Any of these deified like Obama by the press and DC?

Now, I'll certainly admit DC has been the only consistently growing city on earth since WW2, because of the consistently growing administrative state.

But like CTH's thesis, the "patriot act" from the Neocon Rs has been turned onto DC's political enemies.

That has led unlawful behavior, and weaponized law unheard of in this country's history. The obvious double standard is leading to "flexible" law of whom has power.

Dangerous... and it is coming from the previous Obama administration who have filled Potato Joe's administration.
You are correct when throwing in some Neocons from Bush for good measure.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11301 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:43 am to
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You can pick basically any President since the 60s and say it started there.


I think it's always been this way and the technological changes have amplified our awareness. To make it worse those in charge clearly DGAF about us watching them in real time be complete clowns with policy and rule of law. Don't tell me we had a "small government" at any point in time. Corruption is probably at it's lowest point in history, unfortunately.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81370 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Nixon was a reaction to the DEMs (mostly JFK)


I think you mean "mostly LBJ".

Had Kennedy not been assassinated, he probably serves 2 terms, folllowed by Nixon.
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