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re: The Spencer Rattler pick shows how bad the Jake Haener pick was

Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:29 pm to
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Carr was playing lights out when he healed


He was playing well but I don’t know if I would say lights out. Considering he was playing like a below avg qb majority of the season- I don’t know how much stock we should put into the last couple of games.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:35 pm to
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imagine a world where Rattler becomes Purdy like- are we stuck with DA for the next ten years???


if we were a consistent playoff team, would it matter? the, "oh my god, if we become good we are stuck with DA" nonsense is hilarious. it's not very likely to happen, but if DA somehow turned the tide for the better (especially with a young QB) and had the saints cosistently in the playoffs, i'd be ecstatic.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:52 pm to
It's hard for a 4th round QB to be an atrocious pick.

It's fair to say that the Saints aren't optimistic about him though. When that's the case, moving on quickly is the right decision.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:50 pm to
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He was playing well but I don’t know if I would say lights out. Considering he was playing like a below avg qb majority of the season- I don’t know how much stock we should put into the last couple of games.


Lol. What do you consider lights out? The NFL season leader for passer rating was 113 for the year. Wanna guess what Carrs rating was the last 6 games of the year?

He had a 117 rating threw for over 1300 yards with 15 tds and 3ints the last 6 games. I’d have to say when your rating is a few points higher than the nfl leader, I’d say that’s pretty lights out.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
10481 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:50 pm to
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but if DA somehow turned the tide for the better (especially with a young QB) and had the saints cosistently in the playoffs, i'd be ecstatic.


You do realize if DA makes the playoffs this year he probably has a contract for life under Loomis? Who said anything about consistently in playoffs? One playoff appearance likely cements DA long term. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
10481 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:00 am to
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Lol. What do you consider lights out? The NFL season leader for passer rating was 113 for the year. Wanna guess what Carrs rating was the last 6 games of the year? He had a 117 rating threw for over 1300 yards with 15 tds and 3ints the last 6 games. I’d have to say when your rating is a few points higher than the nfl leader, I’d say that’s pretty lights out.


Ok lol. Of those 6 games- 3 of them were against horrendous teams and defenses such as panthers, giants and falcons. The lions got a huge lead and basically played soft defense the rest of the way. But yeah completely ignore the opponents he faced. Now he played well against rams and bucs- but he also lost the rams game which basically took us out of playoff contention.

This is what people do every offseason. They hang on to some hope that so called player was good because he played good later or at some part of the season without assessing circumstances or teams they faced. In essence Carr basically had a good 6 game run against some really bad competition in a 17 game season. Is that what we’re hanging our hats on- you want to call that “lights out” go ahead but I call it facing easy competition.

Also if you really want to be accurate by using the NFL season leader for passer rating- use his passer rating against the same competition and then compare to Carr for those 6 games- otherwise thats not an accurate comparison.

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:55 am to
I’m not ignoring his competition. It’s still NFL defenses. And 6 games is a pretty big sample size. And half of the 6 were playoff teams. You are also ignoring the fact the line was horrendous early in the season with Penning starting. It also got him hurt and he should have sat out one or two games without question.

Maybe it was the competition, maybe he got healthy, maybe he played better once the line learned how to block.. Either way, I put up the stats, which were top 5 stats over those 6 games. I’d say that’s pretty lights out.
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