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re: Would you support government or Christian’s in the United States?
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:49 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:49 pm to wackatimesthree
Yes, we all already know you and about 4-5 other posters here would kill innocent babies if you believed God spoke to you and commanded you to do it. It’s because to you killing innocent babies is not objectively moral or immoral. The only thing objectively moral to you is to do whatever your God tells you whenever he says to do it.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:39 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Yes, we all already know you and about 4-5 other posters here would kill innocent babies if you believed God spoke to you and commanded you to do it. It’s because to you killing innocent babies is not objectively moral or immoral. The only thing objectively moral to you is to do whatever your God tells you whenever he says to do it.
Incorrect.
It's because God determines morality. The only thing objectively moral to anyone is whatever fulfills the definition according to God's character.
That's the unavoidable conclusion if we're using the dictionary definition of the word that applies in the context of the Bible. That's simply a self-evident fact by the definition of the word.
You can use some other definition that doesn't include God being the ultimate moral authority of the universe, that's fine. But then you and the writers of the Bible and the posters to whom you've referred are talking about two different beings when you say the word "God." You have no agreement on possibly the single most important term in the discussion.
You can also claim that God doesn't exist at all and people just made the Bible up. Of course, at that point you have two problems.
1. If God doesn't exist, then people decided to kill innocent babies on their own. You can't blame a God who doesn't exist.
2. If no ultimate moral authority exists, who are you to tell those people they were being immoral when they decided to kill innocent babies? It was pretty much universally accepted behavior in society back then in the context of tribal warfare.
So really, no matter which way you look at it, your efforts to appeal to ridicule to try to show that someone was being immoral fall flat.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:47 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Yes, we all already know you and about 4-5 other posters here would kill innocent babies if you believed God spoke to you and commanded you to do it.
By the way,
If posters here really believed that God had spoken to them and commanded them to kill innocent babies, there's a whole lot more than 4-5 of them that would do it.
It would be easier to count the ones who wouldn't.
The hard part of that equation would be imagining a situation in which people really, truly believed that.
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