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re: Would you support government or Christian’s in the United States?

Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
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That’s kind of a fallacy, but I’ll agree with you that morally-good Christian’s don’t condone the slaughter of innocent babies.
If you're referring to the No True Scotsman fallacy, that isn't accurate. The NTS fallacy is someone's arbitrary opinion about what a Scotsman (or whatever group they're referring to) actually is, while Christians have guidance on what a "true Christian" looks like, at least outwardly, as no one can judge the heart.

If someone claims to be a Christian and lives a life no different from a non-Christian, there is good reason to believe that person isn't truly saved, as a saved person will show fruits of their salvation in their works. That sort of behavior should result in church discipline, which ultimately may result in excommunication, which is an objective designation that the person is considered not to be a Christian. So no, it's not fallacious for Christians to talk in such terms.

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It’s just that some Christians, who claim to be “true Christians”, who would maybe refer to you as “not a real Christian”, actually do justify the killing of children and babies en masse when they believe God said to do it
Not to get into this particular trope again, but you should understand more broadly that there is a difference between God commanding or permitting an action for a particular reason and purpose in history and Him commanding or permitting such actions as normative actions for everyday life for His people. Abraham was commanded to sacrifice his son (and was prevented from doing so) for a particular reason at a particular time in history. Christians are not commanded to sacrifice our children as a normative practice.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:34 pm to
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The NTS fallacy is someone's arbitrary opinion about what a Scotsman (or whatever group they're referring to) actually is, while Christians have guidance on what a "true Christian" looks like

But your opinion about what you think the Bible says isn’t an opinion, but rather a fact, because your interpretation is the only legitimate interpretation. Folks like Catholics and Jehovah’s Witnesses therefore aren’t Christians, right?

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