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re: Would you support government or Christian’s in the United States?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:18 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 4/21/24 at 7:18 pm to Prodigal Son
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No, it’s not.
It is. You'd know that if you'd been here longer.
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:52 pm to Prodigal Son
Hey you used quotations. So not only did he literally not state such a thing, but Dawkins did not ever convey the meaning you attributed to him.
I guess Foo is not going to comment on dinosaurs on the ark. I think you are doing yourself a disservice supporting that guy’s biblical interpretations. He’s a fruitcake.
I guess Foo is not going to comment on dinosaurs on the ark. I think you are doing yourself a disservice supporting that guy’s biblical interpretations. He’s a fruitcake.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:56 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I want to know what you think about how many plant-eating Tyrannosauruses and Velociraptors and Brachiosauruses Noah had on the ark. And then how’d they all get to the Americas after the flood. Like did T-Rex swim across the ocean?
Dinosaurs were alive during the time of man?
Interesting. Tell us more
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:01 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I guess Foo is not going to comment on dinosaurs on the ark.
Foo's MO is to wait a few days and stealth reply, hoping you miss it.
Caught him a several times pulling that shite.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:14 pm to texag7
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Dinosaurs were alive during the time of man?
Do you know what Young Earth creationists believe?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:21 pm to FooManChoo
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You are now making a positive claim that God does not exist. Can you provide evidence backing your assertion since you are the one making the allegation in this instance?
I’m making a negative claim.
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Says who?
Overwhelming majority of historians, scientists, ethicists, philosophers, psychologists, and such.
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since it seems that the cultural consensus is that abortion is the acceptable
It might seem like it to you, based on your distorted reality, but it is closer to 50:50. There is no consensus. Do you, like, watch or read news at all?
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what is the greater authority
The closest thing to an authority is the government, who does attempt to legislate morality based on the cultural norms of society.
Ok… now how about those dinosaurs on the ark? How many of them were on it? How many stegosauruses, Brachiosauruses, Triceratops, and T-Rexes were on board? What did they eat after salt water from the great deep killed all plant life and turned the earth into a salt-covered lifeless mud ball?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 9:49 pm to texag7
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Dinosaurs were alive during the time of man? Interesting. Tell us more
All I know if what is verifiably and evidently factual, based on paleontology, geology, genetics, species morphology, and so on. I only have science based in reality.
I’m waiting on Dr. Foo Lane Craig to give us the Truth. Note the capital “T”. Maybe we will find out if there were only two archaeopteryxes or if there were 14. Maybe that’s how Dinosaurs became extinct? Maybe all the dinosaurs were considered “clean” and when they got off the ark, Noah smote the shite out of them with the edge of the sword and offered them as a burnt offering to the LORD.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:59 pm to Squirrelmeister
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So not only did he literally not state such a thing, but Dawkins did not ever convey the meaning you attributed to him.
Richard Dawkins: 'Biology is the study of complicated things that have the appearance of having been designed with a purpose.'
Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the appearance of design as if by a master watchmaker, impress us with the illusion of design and planning.- Richard Dawkins
The illusion of design is so successful that to this day most Americans (including, significantly, many influential and rich Americans) stubbornly refuse to believe it is an illusion.- Richard Dawkins
The feature of living matter that most demands explanation is that it is almost unimaginably complicated in directions that convey a powerful illusion of deliberate design.- Richard Dawkins
I have no explanation for complex biological design. All I know is that God isn't a good explanation, so we must wait and hope that somebody comes up with a better one.- Richard Dawkins
He really tips his hand with that last quote. He will accept any theory that does not involve God. Ben Stein exposed Dawkins in Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (which I assume you still haven’t watched).
So, here’s a partial transcript of Stein's interview with Dawkins:
Ben Stein: Well then who did create the heavens and the earth?
Prof Dawkins: Why do you use the word ‘who’? You see you immediately beg the question by using the word ‘who’.
Ben Stein: Well then how did it get created?
Prof Dawkins: Well, um, by a very slow process.
Ben Stein: Well how did it start?
Prof Dawkins: Nobody knows how it started. We know the kind of event that it must have been. We know the sort of event that must have happened for the origin of life.
Ben Stein: And what was that?
Prof Dawkins: It was the origin of the first self-replicating molecule.
Ben Stein: Right and how did that happen?
Prof Dawkins: I’ve told you, we don’t know.
Ben Stein: So you have no idea how it started.
Prof Dawkins: No, no, nor has anyone. Ben Stein: Nor has anyone else.
Ben Stein: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in Darwinian evolution.
Prof Dawkins: Well it could come about in the following way. It could be that, eh, at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization evolved by probably some kind of Darwinian means to a very, very, high level of technology and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Ehm, now, that is a possibility and an intriguing possibility and I suppose it’s possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the um detail, details, of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.
Ben Stein: (voiceover, not part of interview) Wait a second, Richard Dawkins thought Intelligent Design might be a legitimate pursuit.
Prof Dawkins: Um..and that designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe
Ben Stein: But, but
Prof Dawkins: But that higher intelligence would itself have had to have come about by some explicable, or ultimately explicable process, he couldn’t have just jumped into existence spontaneously, that’s the point.
Ben Stein: (voiceover) So Professor Dawkins was not against Intelligent Design, just certain types of Designers, such as God. Well, there you have it – ‘if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer…and that designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe’. In a nutshell, that’s Intelligent Design.
So, panspermia (which only defers the explanation for the origin of life), according to Dawkins, is a much more palatable explanation for the origin of life (on earth), than God. Gotcha. Very illuminating. Yet here you are, giving Foo a hard time about dinosaurs? Mkayyy
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:40 pm to Prodigal Son
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He really tips his hand with that last quote. He will accept any theory that does not involve God.
The Christian god can never be a good explanation, by design.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:01 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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The Christian god can never be a good explanation, by design.
Yet another “hot take” from an internet troll.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:03 pm to Prodigal Son
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Prodigal Son
The ability to copy-paste is different from the ability to understand the copy-paste. You said something stupid. I pointed it out.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:37 pm to Prodigal Son
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I have no explanation for complex biological design. All I know is that God isn't a good explanation, so we must wait and hope that somebody comes up with a better one.- Richard Dawkins
Behold, the lying pen of the scribe Prodigal Son has turned the Blind Watchmaker into a lie! - Jeremiah 8:8
Let’s see what actually is in Dawkins’ book:
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But what Hume did was criticize the logic of using apparent design in nature as positive evidence for the existence of a God. He did not offer any alternative explanation for apparent design, but left the question open. An atheist before Darwin could have said, following Hume: 'I have no explanation for complex biological design. All I know is that God isn't a good explanation, so we must wait and hope that somebody comes up with a better one.' I can't help feeling that such a position, though logically sound, would have left one feeling pretty unsatisfied, and that although atheism might have been logically tenable before Darwin, Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist. I like to think that Hume would agree, but some of his writings suggest that he underestimated the complexity and beauty of biological design. The boy naturalist Charles Darwin could have shown him a thing or two about that, but Hume had been dead 40 years when Darwin enrolled in Hume's university of Edinburgh.
Why you are repeating this misinformation that I already corrected you on at least once I do not know. I’m not going to speculate about your motivations.
I’m going to use that to invalidate your entire post and not read the rest of it.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:43 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I’m going to use that to invalidate your entire post and not read the rest of it.
So, business as usual?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
He copied and pasted a section out of context to make it look like Dawkins ways saying something that he was writing to say about what some other guy might have said. He probably copied it from a disingenuous Christian apologist site rather than the actual book, which he surely has never read. Sad.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:47 pm to Squirrelmeister
Copied and pasted from azquotes.com Hardly a Christian apologist site, but don’t let the truth get in your way! 
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:52 pm to Squirrelmeister
Nice Jeremiah reference! Interesting how you left out v9…
Jeremiah 8:8–9 (NASB95): 8 ?“How can you say, ‘We are wise,
And the law of the Lord is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
Has made it into a lie.
9 “The wise men are put to shame,
They are dismayed and caught;
Behold, they have rejected the word of the Lord,
And what kind of wisdom do they have?
Jeremiah 8:8–9 (NASB95): 8 ?“How can you say, ‘We are wise,
And the law of the Lord is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
Has made it into a lie.
9 “The wise men are put to shame,
They are dismayed and caught;
Behold, they have rejected the word of the Lord,
And what kind of wisdom do they have?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:19 pm to Squirrelmeister
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He copied and pasted a section out of context
He doesn't even realize how much of a self own his post was...
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:51 pm to Prodigal Son
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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