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Going Woke - Going to remove tomb raiding from Tomb Raider

Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:23 pm
Still going to call it Tomb Raider though. There is no agenda here though

https://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/headlines4855.html

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British adventurer Lara Croft will transition from being a raider of tombs to a seeker of truth as Evil Hat Productions and Crystal Dynamics seek to redefine the Tomb Raider series in order to escape a history wounded by colonialism, according to an excerpt from the official Tomb Raider Shadows of Truth RPG rulebook.

"Raiding, as depicted in the original Tomb Raider games and stories, involves going to ancient tombs and historical sites of different civilisations and acquiring artefacts. It operates on the assumption of 'finders keepers' that grants raiders with the means and the drive to claim ownership of artefacts, regardless of whether they have any historical or cultural claim to the treasure."



Bonus - Gamers are using AI to invent a better Lara . Next version will probably be a lesbian POC








Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:28 pm to
I guarantee this thread won't turn into a shite show.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:37 pm to
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guarantee this thread won't turn into a shite show.


We will have

Team


versus

Team
Posted by WaltWhite504
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:38 pm to
As long as she continues to do whatever she does wearing her tight cleavage/arse revealing clothing she could be raiding Mar A Lago for all i care
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:51 pm to
Inb4sicboy
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:56 pm to
This was actually released from CD earlier this year, everyone thinks this will be the new unified look of Lara



By the 3rd game in the reboot, I thought they already had it good to go though



Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:15 pm to


*shrugs*
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:19 pm to
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"Raiding, as depicted in the original Tomb Raider games and stories, involves going to ancient tombs and historical sites of different civilisations and acquiring artefacts. It operates on the assumption of 'finders keepers' that grants raiders with the means and the drive to claim ownership of artefacts, regardless of whether they have any historical or cultural claim to the treasure."


For frick's sake, that's the character.

Have these people ever read a single piece of literature? It's like they're neutering everything. No wonder every character nowadays is one dimensional and sucks.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:31 pm to
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For frick's sake, that's the character.

Have these people ever read a single piece of literature? It's like they're neutering everything. No wonder every character nowadays is one dimensional and sucks.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of character development? A young woman starting with a drive to acquire artifacts but, over the course of over a half dozen narratives, finds that has lost its luster and starts to give more mature thought to what she's doing is about as narratively standard as it comes. The idea that a character's personality and motivations should stay utterly static through decades of media is honestly a bit odd to me.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:49 pm to
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The idea that a character's personality and motivations should stay utterly static through decades of media is honestly a bit odd to me.


Changing the essence of the character isn't character development. Just because they put something next in line for the character doesn't make it development.

Did you think Luke Skywalker's storyline in the sequels was development?

Luke was the only person in the galaxy with hope that Anakin was still alive within Vader. But we got the great "character development" of him having a bad dream and immediately thinking about murdering his nephew. Where did all that hope go? That completely conflicted with who he was. But that's just character development.

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seek to redefine the Tomb Raider series in order to escape a history wounded by colonialism


But yeah, they're doing this for character development. I'm sure they won't give her a breast reduction and uglier face too. I doubt they understand the concept of a femme fatale.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:56 pm to
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Are you unfamiliar with the concept of character development?


The first 3 games of the reboot covered this really, and those started back in 2013 (pre-woke). Reboot Lara was not a collector of things, she was already becoming a seeker of truth. The tombs did nothing more than give her extra abilities, the only thing close was gathering items to make the ancient bow.

They basically already established this and actually did a good job of it. The games showed her being very respectful of the cultures they interacted with.

So why state this now, since they were already doing it? They missed their chance to get "WOKE" credit . These people are pathetic sometimes, trying to pander to people that will not even play their game.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:15 pm to
Look at these evil colonizers



Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

The first 3 games of the reboot covered this really, and those started back in 2013 (pre-woke). Reboot Lara was not a collector of things, she was already becoming a seeker of truth. The tombs did nothing more than give her extra abilities, the only thing close was gathering items to make the ancient bow.

They basically already established this and actually did a good job of it. The games showed her being very respectful of the cultures they interacted with.

So why state this now, since they were already doing it? They missed their chance to get "WOKE" credit . These people are pathetic sometimes, trying to pander to people that will not even play their game.
If you look at the full context in the screenshot I posted, they acknowledge that's what they were doing in the reboots. As for "why now", this wasn't some kind of press release. This is a character snippet from the booklet that comes with the TR tabletop game that got posted as some grand statement of change for the series.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Changing the essence of the character isn't character development. Just because they put something next in line for the character doesn't make it development.
Be honest: have you even played the games?
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:01 pm to
One of those strong female leads that they want to ruin. I’m sure when it flops they will blame cis men.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:08 pm to
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One of those strong female leads that they want to ruin. I’m sure when it flops they will blame cis men.
And yet the game reboots did quite well. Weirdly not ruined…
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:14 pm to
You wish they would out a much effort into releasing a game without bugs and glitches as they do to fighting colonialism
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:24 pm to
Not anytime recently

I don’t need to to know that taking the “tomb raider” part of out Lara Croft: Tomb Raider changes enough to make it no longer the same character
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:30 pm to
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Not anytime recently I don’t need to to know that taking the “tomb raider” part of out Lara Croft: Tomb Raider changes enough to make it no longer the same character
Likely hasn’t played most of the games, including the three most recent, and yet is firmly convinced that he knows more about the character, and character development, of Laura Croft than those who have. The arrogance underpinning that certainty is genuinely impressive
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 4:32 pm
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Laura Croft than those who have


You can't even spell her name right, slick. You're a big fan
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