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re: This is the greatest prison on Earth
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to 4cubbies
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Looks like the threat of execution isn’t a strong deterrent in this country.
So what? We're not even talking about execution. These prisoners in El Salvador aren't getting the death penalty.
I agree with your overall point—I'm not willing to trade the civil liberties and protections from government that we have in America for the type of law enforcement that they have implemented in El Salvador—but the fact remains that what they have done has worked to deter violent crime. It's undeniable. They've gone from over 100 murders per 100,000 to fewer than 5 in a very short time. It has worked.
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It’s great to see more small government conservatives
They aren't. By definition. They are populists on the right.
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:54 am to wackatimesthree
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but the fact remains that what they have done has worked to deter violent crime.
Yes, authoritarianism can decrease crime rates
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:29 am to wackatimesthree
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So what?
So what?! Are you serious? Have we devolved so much as a society and species that we condone and even celebrate locking our fellow humans In cages even though we know it doesn’t serve much of a purpose?
quote:the post I replied to encouraged ”putting them down.”
These prisoners in El Salvador aren't getting the death penalty.
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but the fact remains that what they have done has worked to deter violent crime. It's undeniable. They've gone from over 100 murders per 100,000 to fewer than 5 in a very short time. It has worked.
Their gun laws are much different from ours. Their society is much different from ours. What works in other countries isn’t guaranteed to work here.
Our carceral system is a total failure. It creates better criminals and more traumatized Americans. It’s just a money pit at this point. Making it more traumatic won’t fix it.
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