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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:21 am to BCreed1
Location of voters is more important
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:23 am to GumboPot
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Biden is the most popular president ever. More popular than Obama.
I suspect you're smarter than that, so do the coy thing if you like.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:24 am to BBONDS25
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What? 4.6% increase is massive.
You might even think there was something or someone driving the increased turnout...
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:28 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You might even think there was something or someone driving the increased turnout...
Joe Biden is sure a compelling candidate. Great point.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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driving the increased turnout...
You got that part right. USPS trucks delivering mass mail-in votes in the middle of the night.
Only a fool believes Biden won 2020 fairly and legally.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:33 am to i am dan
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Thousands of ballots with no adresses and the only vote cast on the ballot was a vote for biden.
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Arizona Citizens Investigation Discovers Thousands of Phantom Voters in State – Up to 30% of Addresses in Investigation Were Fraudulent
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Investigation Finds Votes Cast by:
Voters that are dead, verified no longer at that address
Several with the actual name “Unknown Voter”
Registered at commercial addresses, especially Church’s Chicken
Non-U.S. Citizens who denied voting
Felons who stated they can’t vote, others in jail for years
Out of State residents who just don’t live in Arizona
Registered using Schools, car lots, and sports arena’s addresses
65 using the AZ Tabulation Center & Recorders Office as their address
Vacant lots at elderly villages (55 & over) and undeveloped properties
Wilderness addresses on Bureau of Land Management & State Trust land
Abandoned homes completely unlivable or boarded up
Street names that just do not exist in any Arizona records
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Among other things, Piton found one corner lot has 1,500 registered voters and the lot next to it has 1,000. It’s beyond suspicious that 2,500 voters are registered to such a small area of land.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:33 am to BBONDS25
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Joe Biden is sure a compelling candidate. Great point.
The majority of people who checked Biden on their ballot did so as a vote against Trump, not for Biden.
As much as "TDS," "mean tweets," etc. get thrown around here, I don't know why anyone acts surprised about that.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:34 am to riccoar
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Wisconsin. US 3rd circuit.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:37 am to BBONDS25
Did y'all forget to tell Trump to move back in?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Did y'all forget to tell Trump to move back in?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:39 am to JoeHackett
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Just to provide some context here Jj. The data from your link is from the Census Bureau. According to their report
% of registered voters who voted
91.8% in 2020
87.2% in 2016
86.7% in 2012
89.6% in 2008
Which means it's completely believable.
Apparently only the opportunity to elect the first black American POTUS overcomes trump's ability to drive people to the polls ($1 to Bucky Cheese). And even then, only the first time around.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:45 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:47 am to GumboPot
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:54 am to BCreed1
Get this, Trumo gained votes with 1.) Women 2.) Latinos 3.) Blacks
So how did Biden win?
He gained bigly for the Dems with WHITE MALES
So, who is the least likely to turn out and vote? White males, and that has been the case for eons. So, what did the lying, cheating, thug Dems do? Mail out ballots and vote for those who THEY KNOW do not usually vote, How did they know in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly and all these places? Well of course these Dem run cities leaked this info unto these thugs. PLUS, that is why it took so many days, after their initial understandings of Trump beat Joe big time, they had to then go back and check all STILL AVAILABLE chances to steal a vote via checking the rolls to see who had not yet voted, where the could vote for them. Those are the on es who usually only had a Presidential and Senate vote on them
Go look at the White Male turnout in those 6 areas, it MUCH HIGHER than in other parts of the nation. Dems are evil thugs who are nothing but commies.
So how did Biden win?
He gained bigly for the Dems with WHITE MALES
So, who is the least likely to turn out and vote? White males, and that has been the case for eons. So, what did the lying, cheating, thug Dems do? Mail out ballots and vote for those who THEY KNOW do not usually vote, How did they know in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly and all these places? Well of course these Dem run cities leaked this info unto these thugs. PLUS, that is why it took so many days, after their initial understandings of Trump beat Joe big time, they had to then go back and check all STILL AVAILABLE chances to steal a vote via checking the rolls to see who had not yet voted, where the could vote for them. Those are the on es who usually only had a Presidential and Senate vote on them
Go look at the White Male turnout in those 6 areas, it MUCH HIGHER than in other parts of the nation. Dems are evil thugs who are nothing but commies.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:04 am to riccoar
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Only a fool believes Biden won 2020 fairly and legally.
I believe that there were shenanigans. But not like you do.
I don't believe that 10 millions votes were manufactured or anything like that.
What people forget about 2020 is that they think that Trump kicked Clinton's arse in 2016. The EC system makes it look that way.
But he barely won.
And really, he didn't win so much as Clinton lost due to Jill Stein getting more votes than the Green Party usually siphons off the Democratic Party in key states.
Remember those states Trump "historically flipped?" Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania? Stein got over 3% of the vote in each of those. She usually gets about 1.5%. That was the difference. Trump's margin of victory in those states was less than the number of votes Stein got.
Now, fast forward to 2020. The dirtiest trick the Democrats played in 2020 is one nobody every talks about. They saw what happened in 2020, so they got the Green Party kicked off the ballot in as many states as they could, including Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Democrats Dirty Tricks Against The Green Party
That was step one, and it probably would have been enough.
But given the mail in ballot nonsense due to COVID hysteria I'm sure there were some manufactured votes as well. There are every election. From both sides. So that's not crazy to assume, and I don't think it has to be assumed. I think there's video and other credible evidence to support it.
Do I think they stole the election? Probably. It was probably enough to tip the scales, since they were so close to begin with.
But that has happened before. That's the other thing that people forget in their populist frenzies.
Probably happened with the JFK election in 1960. I know many people claim that that fraud has been determined to not have been sufficient to tip it, I'm more skeptical. Anyway, there have been stolen POTUS election allegations in the early 1900s and a handful in the 1800s.
We survived. And thrived.
I have a fact for the populists among us here: There has always been a Ruling Class. As far back in history as you want to go. Sometimes that Ruling Class were clergy, sometimes they were generals, sometimes they were politicians, but there always has been one.
And that Ruling Class has always gotten over on the regular citizenry.
You cannot and will not get rid of it. You know why Trump didn't "drain the swamp?" Because it's impossible. Even if someone did it, it would just fill right back up again. Read Animal Farm.
So those wanting to burn the system to the ground are delusional. Yes, there needs to be pushback to maintain some boundaries on the Ruling Class, but you can't get rid of them.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:09 am to lazlodawg
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It is more important where these additional voters voted.
In all 50 states. Kinda blows up the narrative that only fraud could lead to an increase in turnout unless you believe that Democrats cheated in every single state.
200,000 more people voted in Alabama. Biden improved on Hillary's total by 120,000 votes. Trump improved by 123,000.
400,000 more people voted in S. Carolina. Biden improved on Hillary's total by 236,000 votes. Trump improved by 229,000.
370,000 more people voted in Oregon. Biden improved on Hillary's total by 338,000 votes. Trump improved by 176,000.
52,000 more people voted in S. Dakota. Biden improved on Hillary's total by 33,000 votes. Trump improved by 33,000.
50,000 more people voted in Vermont. Biden improved on Hillary's total by 64,000 votes. Trump improved by 17,000.
I could list all 50 states and the story would be exactly the same. Turnout was up everywhere and fewer people voted 3rd party. Taking a single data point (a higher % of registered voters voted) and thinking it proves fraud is either dumb or misleading.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:30 am to LegalEazyE
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Oh, yeah. Totally bro. The old white guy with dementia who barely campaigned got more Democrat votes than Obama. Fur sherrrrr.... You fricking nerd.
You really have a hard time believing that the most polaring politician in living memory might drive a record number of people to vote for or against him?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:39 am to TTOWN RONMON
So you'll buy that Trump gained with women and minorities, but not that Biden gained with white liberals?
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