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re: People who drive in the rain with their hazard flashers on should be flayed.

Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:20 am to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12801 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:20 am to
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saw them turn on their hazards while going the speed limit as the rain got harder, and they were not slowing down, so I knew what their intentions were. No hard brakes.

So you rely on the intended use of brake lights to determine a drivers actions. But you have to guess how drivers are using their hazard lights because they aren’t using them for what they are made for.

Sounds like a lot of assumptions when it could all be cleared up if people just did what the lights are lawfully meant to do.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:20 am to
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Nah. I asked a question.


That's nice.

We'll get you there, but you need to participate.

quote:

You don't have a driver's license?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12801 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:21 am to
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They are easier to see

Are they brighter?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45216 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:22 am to
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The bitching about this issue is a Louisiana tradition apparently

I can't recall ever using my hazards while driving, but it has never bothered me in real life and I doubt it bothers the huge majority of people. I don't even think it annoys me on this board, it's just become the default baw position on this website.


It’s definitely a Louisiana/Tigerdroppings thing. This is the only place I see it bitched about to an insane extent. Unless this person with flashers is going way under the speed limit in the left lane, someone going an acceptable speed with their flashers on during low visibility hasn’t bothered me in the slightest or affected my safety.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:22 am to
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Sounds like a lot of assumptions when it could all be cleared up if people just did what the lights are lawfully meant to do.


Sounds like they used their hazard lights for their exact purpose.

You'd know that if you had a driver's license.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7474 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:23 am to
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You're breaking the law a-hole


Alabama: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Alaska: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Arizona: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in an emergency situation.
Arkansas: Hazard light usage is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
California: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Colorado: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except if the vehicle speed is 25 mph or less.
Connecticut: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Delaware: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
District of Columbia: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Florida: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Georgia: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving.
Hawaii: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Idaho: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing.
Illinois: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Indiana: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Iowa: The use of hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Kansas: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Kentucky: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Louisiana: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Maine: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving unless to indicate a traffic hazard.
Maryland: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Massachusetts: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Michigan: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Minnesota: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Mississippi: Hazard light usage is permitted while driving.
Missouri: Hazard light usage is permitted while driving.
Montana: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Nebraska: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Nevada: Hazard light usage is not permitted while driving.
New Hampshire: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
New Jersey: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving.
New Mexico: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
New York: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
North Carolina: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
North Dakota: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Ohio: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except when a hazardous condition is present.
Oklahoma: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations and to indicate a traffic hazard.
Oregon: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Pennsylvania: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Rhode Island: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
South Carolina: Hazard lights may be used while driving for the purpose of warning the operators of other vehicles of the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring the exercise of unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing.
South Dakota: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Tennessee: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Texas: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Utah: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Vermont: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Virginia: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except for emergency vehicles, stopped or slowed vehicles to indicate a traffic hazard, when traveling as part of a funeral procession, or traveling slower than 30 mph.
Washington: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
West Virginia: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Wisconsin: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard or when a hazardous condition is present.
Wyoming: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45216 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:23 am to
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I was driving to Tyler a couple weeks ago and some idiot was in the left lane driving 45 in a 75 with their flashers on. This is how people get killed.


So the person is going 45 in a 75 and you think it’s the flashers that are the problem?

How about the whole going 30 mph under the limit thing?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5815 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:26 am to
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Are they brighter?


Yes, in a lot of cases. And the fact that they are yellow may have something to do with it as well.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:27 am to
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And even if they were, how do you differentiate from a car actually broken down in the lane vs an a-hole who thinks his flashers help?


You don't need to differentiate. Your reaction should be the same in either case.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12801 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:27 am to
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We'll get you there, but you need to participate.


I certainly don’t need to answer your question.

If you feel you have an answer to the one I asked, you can share. If you don’t, then I’ll just assume you don’t have one.

No matter to me. I’m sure someone else can enlighten me.

Why is there a change in the flow of traffic during heavy rain?
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9293 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:28 am to
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You don't need to differentiate. Your reaction should be the same in either case.


If someone is driving with flashers I should stop and/or change lanes? God you are stupid.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12801 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:28 am to
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Sounds like they used their hazard lights for their exact purpose.


What purpose is that, when they are used in heavy rain?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6848 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:29 am to
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How are hazards better than tail lights?


They are easier to see


So why don't we just use them all the time, in all conditions? I will answer that....because they aren't for low visibility, that's what your head/tail lights are for. A lot of places teach this in drivers education and it's a question on the test...when you should turn on your lights, which is around when visibility gets less than 500 ft. They also teach to slow down in bad conditions, but not stop.
If you stop, you pull off the road and put hazards on. If everyone followed this, there wouldn't be any issues.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45216 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:30 am to
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Why is there a change in the flow of traffic during heavy rain?


I’m guessing he’s probably going to keep asking you about your license because you’re asking a retarded question
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1754 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:30 am to
Florida - it is legal under certain circumstances...

quote:

Until July 2019, only two exceptions existed allowing the use of hazard lights while driving:

While driving in a funeral procession
When the vehicle is at a complete stop and on the side of the road to indicate danger to other drivers

Under Florida Statute 316.2397(7), this regulation was modified to allow drivers to use their hazard lights during periods of “extremely low visibility” and while driving at speeds above 55 mph. Inclement weather, such as heavy rain, can create extreme low visibility conditions and thus is now considered a valid circumstance in which to use these lights.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:30 am to
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I certainly don’t need to answer your question.


In the context of advancing the discussion, you do.

Of course, we both know that isn't what you're interested in here, don't we?

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Why is there a change in the flow of traffic during heavy rain?


You don't have a driver's license?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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you’re asking a retarded question


This guy gets it.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37723 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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You don't have a driver's license?


I have one. Why does the flow of traffic change with heavy rain?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73436 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:32 am to
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I will answer that....because they aren't for low visibility


Correct, and that isn't why they're being used.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45216 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:32 am to
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If someone is driving with flashers I should stop and/or change lanes? God you are stupid.


Yall really can’t tell if someone with flashers in front of you is completely stopped or moving at the same pace you are?
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