re: 'Joker: Folie a Deux' Official Trailer #1

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That’s not creativity. That’s copy and pasting.

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At the most basic level, sure. But they haven't been done "on film," so there is a difference.

Why do you think these movies are popular in the first place. It's not because Bruce Wayne is some new character we've never seen before.

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There was just a 4 season Max show starring Dick Grayson. Nobody watched it because it was trash outside of the wheelchair fight.

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Because it's Max and came out at Peak "too many streaming services time." And yes, TV is a perilous place for superheroes as getting the "big feel" of a comic book right on TV is hard to do.

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The appeal is we are getting another movie that isn’t beholden to a cinematic universe, which seems to be the only DC movies they are capable of making that aren’t dogshit and actually make money.

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Again, "the universe" and the interaction of characters is precisely why these characters have lasted 50+ years. It's not because we saw Joker once in a comic book and never again.

The Joker, removed from the universe, removed from who he is, is not an interesting character - and that's why the first movie isn't interesting and doesn't last. (Yes, he was "in" the universe, but not REALLY. It was a cheap mechanism)

It's just a movie about a crazy person. It's not THE Joker. Without the connection to a bigger story, to chasing Batman dozens of time, to the history of the character, it's literally not even the Joker.