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re: Marques Brownlee explains the Apple Antitrust lawsuit

Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:08 pm to
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except you made this up.


I made up teenagers and other "similar demographics"? Do tell me what the Biden administration means by other similar demographics if it's not minorities.

Let me make this simpler for those of you that are confused. The gist of this suit is about messaging over a cellphone. In other words, messaging/texting.

Apple doesn't have a monopoly on texting; it simply has its own version called instant messaging. In a highly competitive market with Android/Google and other cell phone makers, people are free to pick and choose as they please. Where's the monopoly? Apple doesn't own the text messaging market. It simply owns its own version of it.

The DOJ knows this. Since there's no true monopoly, what's the anti-trust problem here? There isn't one. You don't sue a company just because it is successful or popular in something. The Biden DOJ is left with having to resort to social stigma impacting "certain demographics" by using one version over the other as an excuse to bring down Apple's "walled garden".

Boo Hoo, poor little minority/teenager feels looked down upon for having green bubbles, and buys Apple instead, so we gonna hit Apple where it hurts.

I mean, WTF?









Posted by Fat Batman
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Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:56 pm to
You are taking a quote from this NY Post ( ) article

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“Many non-iPhone users also experience social stigma, exclusion, and blame for ‘breaking’ chats where other participants own iPhones,” the lawsuit claimed, adding that the effect is “particularly powerful for certain demographics, like teenagers.”


and adding "black", "poors", etc. to fit your argument even though the list terminates at teenagers.

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Apple doesn't have a monopoly on texting


Once upon a time there was SMS/MMS. Every phone used it and every phone was compatible when texting phone number to phone number. Apple created iMessage and took over how their phones interacted with native messaging between phone numbers. Still ok because Apple built a bridge and fell back to SMS/MMS when both users were not on iMessage. The same SMS/MMS non-iphone users were already subjected to. Carriers are migrating to RCS to replace SMS/MMS since that protocol no longer supports modern messaging needs. Now, Apple was refusing to update their fallback to use RCS. The motivation for why they were dragging their feet can be plainly seen in this quote from a similar conversation around messaging from Apple’s Craig Federighi re: bringing iMessage to Android where he said

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‘iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones,”


combined with their massive marketshare it reinforces messaging incompatibility remains one of the strongest switching cost for apple users and a large part of the wall holding them in the "garden". this switching cost is important because it is not rooted in merit, it is exclusionary behavior which falls directly under antitrust law.

all that shite about blacks and poors and DEI is fabricated by you to try to make this a political issue. the barrier to entry is low for new users. thats why Apple sells the SE and those can be had all day for <$200 off ebay. people with androids could very easily pick iphone. the issue is that Apple is using their market share to create high switching cost for existing users to keep them there and sell them products at inflated prices not based solely on merit, but on switching costs.

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Boo Hoo, poor little minority/teenager feels looked down upon for having green bubbles, and buys Apple instead, so we gonna hit Apple where it hurts.


No one is saying Apple has to even change bubble colors. in fact, after RCS integration they will likely still exist to indicate users not on iMessage and to try to hang onto a piece of the switching cost.

even if this was "leftist", as you so badly want so you can cope, you still have yet to answer how this is bad for the consumer, but i think we all know why.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:44 pm to
You need to find a hobby.
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