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re: Oregon just re-criminalized drug possession and use
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:36 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:36 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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None. That’s the point. When alcohol was illegal, during prohibition, there was a massive uptick in violence and crime. People still drank, but the black market enriched organized crime. Now it’s legal, cheap and regulated.
It blows my mind that people can’t wrap their heads around this. I’ve had conversations with people in which they admit that there was little to no violent crime involving the making and distribution of alcohol before prohibition, there was a massive increase in violent crime involving the making and distribution of alcohol during prohibition, and then once prohibition ended and up to the present day, there is little to no violent crime involving the making and distribution of alcohol.
And then as soon as I say ok, so there’s currently tons of violent crime involving the making and distribution of illegal narcotics, and if we ended narcotics prohibition, that violent crime would evaporate just like when we ended alcohol prohibition, it’s like their brains snap shut and refuse to entertain any thought outside of “narcotics = violent crime”. I’ll never understand it.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:47 pm to Joshjrn
Yea, it’s like bizarro world. People are prisoners to their prejudices.
They also can’t differentiate between “legalize” and “decriminalize” which are completely different. Decriminalization is worse than both prohibition and legalization. You get all the bad, with none of the good.
In my opinion, there are only two ways to “solve” the drug problem.
1. Full on authoritarian laws against drugs, with death penalty/life sentences for dealers and mandatory prison sentences for users. This would require many new prisons and an appetite for locking millions of people up.
2. Full on legalization, with strict regulation and taxation, with much of the proceeds dedicated to rehab facilities.
But we will be stuck with half-measures of prohibition, with lax enforcement- which is worse than both and almost as bad as decriminalization.
They also can’t differentiate between “legalize” and “decriminalize” which are completely different. Decriminalization is worse than both prohibition and legalization. You get all the bad, with none of the good.
In my opinion, there are only two ways to “solve” the drug problem.
1. Full on authoritarian laws against drugs, with death penalty/life sentences for dealers and mandatory prison sentences for users. This would require many new prisons and an appetite for locking millions of people up.
2. Full on legalization, with strict regulation and taxation, with much of the proceeds dedicated to rehab facilities.
But we will be stuck with half-measures of prohibition, with lax enforcement- which is worse than both and almost as bad as decriminalization.
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