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re: So the rumor is that Tulane's Patrick Jenkins is the target DT from the portal

Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:36 pm to
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JJ Watt stated in that interview that it’s not just kinda off at times. He said that the PFF grades would be night and day from the coaches grades. And I assure the coaches know more than the pff guys.



Again, its not a perfect solution (nothing is, even coaches can have a bias themselves) nor is it ever billed to be. But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generally "right". This is way more reliable than someone coming on here and going "oh man I saw him in 1 game and he was really good!"

Again, dont you understand that? Who would you trust more, someone who said they saw someone play briefly and pointed a few plays who might transfer to said school now or an impartial service that grades every single play someone is on the field for? I'm definitely going to lean more on the latter. Again, individual people watching a game casually are only going to remember highlights and lowlights, not 70 out of 70 snaps for 1 specific player unless it's like a QB or something who touches the ball every play.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:04 pm to
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But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generall


They do that cause collinsworth owns pff and it's his broadcast.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 1:52 am to
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Again, its not a perfect solution (nothing is, even coaches can have a bias themselves) nor is it ever billed to be. But its used by NFL teams, heck they introduce players with their PFF rank compared to others at their position during broadcasts. It's an impartial view of every snap someone plays and when you aggregate the large amount data it's going to be generally "right". This is way more reliable than someone coming on here and going "oh man I saw him in 1 game and he was really good!"


PFF grades used during broadcasts have nothing to do with NFL teams, it does however have something to do with broadcasters though.

I have a problem with any grading system that any average Joe off the street can sign up to be an evaluator and then to do so without knowing the play call or the player's responsibility on any particular play that the evaluator is responsible for grading.

I often look at PFF scores and wonder what game they were watching, because it was not the game I witnessed and I do have coaching experience.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14545 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:31 am to
Just curious. Does PFF take into account if a player eats up more blockers or double teams? If Jenkins is Tulane's best DT he likely receives the most attention from the offensive scheme.
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