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re: I quit doing cardio

Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:54 am to
Posted by NewOrleansBlend
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:54 am to
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IMO unless you are under 15% bodyfat measured by DEXA and at a FFMI of 22ish, consistently walk 8k steps and can do the following 1 mile- 9min press-135 bench-200 squat-315 deadlift- 350 pushups- 40 chins- 10 dead hang
then dont really care about all the rest because havent trained consistently enough to worry about vo2 max this or that longevity exercise


The data for longevity specifically suggest otherwise. You keep saying that the mortality benefit for strength is similar to cardiorespiratory fitness, but the numbers suggest an exponential benefit to fitness relative to strength, a benefit that is very unlikely to ever be equal even with all of confounding variables that influence both of the numbers.

Also, the person you replied to (a high level strength coach) is arguing for low intensity steady state cardio, the thing you are arguing against.

I too prefer to strength train, as most of us on this forum do, but you can’t ignore the data to fit personal preferences
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:04 am to
This thread and the “healthy calories “ thread have been great.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31642 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:06 am to
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Also, the person you replied to (a high level strength coach) is arguing for low intensity steady state cardio, the thing you are arguing against.



no i did not. i have specifically said walking, walking on an incline and walking carrying things are specifically what you should be doing, just not jogging

and i have the same certs as him more than likely. i just chose a better paying path with better work life balance because unless you are at a very big school and the head coach...the pay fricking sucks almost as bad as the hours suck


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The data for longevity specifically suggest otherwise.


there is data on being able to do a certain number of pushups, chin ups, walking 8k steps, certain body fat percentages, FFMI, other strength metrics

you keep looking at cardio benefits in a vacuum. not to mention i said being able to run a 9min mile(guess you missed that part). the cardio benefits are not in a vacuum just like strength isnt either.

and yall keep saying...such and such said this...well show the studies.

and you get a cardio benefit from strength training and from walking.

and if you were around long enough you would know i suggest training like an athlete as in jumps/throws/sprints and have the ability to sprint full on, which i have mentioned multiple times in the thread and you keep ignoring because of some fascination with jogging

but ill go ahead and say it...want to look like shite, not be able to do shite in your late 60s and 70s keep jogging. we will see who is right in the end. ill be out playing basketball with my grandkids while all the joggers cant stand up straight.

i dont really care that much. imo 99% of this board majors in the minors, especially in the running threads. got guys with an ffmi of 16 and a BF% of 20 telling others the key to longevity is running. have fun with that


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