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re: Let's be real...the DJT stock is a meme stock and will come back to reality soon
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Yes. Point to anything of actual value Trump has created over the years.
You forgetting his real estate empire? You don’t think any of his other hundreds or thousands of ventures brought anything of value? You think he got all of his money from the three failed ventures mentioned? Good Lord.
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:42 pm to BBONDS25
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Trump has created
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his real estate empire
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:42 pm to BBONDS25
His golf course portfolio is pretty strong.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:43 pm to BBONDS25
Maybe you should check out what happened the last time he brought a company public under the same symbol.
This will end up the same way, but I doubt it'll take 10 years this time.
This will end up the same way, but I doubt it'll take 10 years this time.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:44 pm to BBONDS25
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You don’t think any of his other hundreds or thousands of ventures brought anything of value?
List them.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:51 pm to BBONDS25
Whatever else he may or may not be, Trump is a talented salesman. Always has been. And his most successful endeavors have always involved the sale of his own name.
Does that translate to Trump Social, for anything resembling "long term?" Maybe, but I doubt it. In the past, he has traditionally started with something (usually real estate) already having significant value, and managed to enhance that value by adding the "cachet" of his name ,,. and some cheap and trashy gold plating. With Trump Social, he started with something having zero intrinsic value (almost no assets, and losing money hand over fist), and he is hoping that his name will give it enough value (for long enough) to allow him to cash out at a significant profit to himself ... not from a successful operation, but from a name-created bubble in value.
Yes, the company has some market value now, but so does GameStop. My best guess is that eventually the music will stop, and a lot of people will find themselves with nowhere to sit and owning the portfolio equivalent of a closet full of Beanie Babies.
Does that translate to Trump Social, for anything resembling "long term?" Maybe, but I doubt it. In the past, he has traditionally started with something (usually real estate) already having significant value, and managed to enhance that value by adding the "cachet" of his name ,,. and some cheap and trashy gold plating. With Trump Social, he started with something having zero intrinsic value (almost no assets, and losing money hand over fist), and he is hoping that his name will give it enough value (for long enough) to allow him to cash out at a significant profit to himself ... not from a successful operation, but from a name-created bubble in value.
Yes, the company has some market value now, but so does GameStop. My best guess is that eventually the music will stop, and a lot of people will find themselves with nowhere to sit and owning the portfolio equivalent of a closet full of Beanie Babies.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:52 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I'm not forgetting the money he personally extracted from real estate, no.
You forgetting his real estate empire?
quote:To many people other than himself? No.
You don’t think any of his other hundreds or thousands of ventures brought anything of value?
quote:I never said that. Why are you so emotional on this topic? It's weird.
You think he got all of his money from the three failed ventures mentioned? Good Lord.
Here a few billionaire value-creation examples I can think of where Trump did nothing even vaguely comparable:
Steve Jobs - Apple
Mark Cuban - various tech ventures
Peter Thiel - PayPal and then early investor in other, major ventures that are now public equities with massive market caps, enriching millions of others over the years
Can you point to any entity - public or private - that Trump created with his own wisdom or know-how that has built broadly spread value for thousands/millions of others?
His "creations" have been extractive - AND have started from a very high based (hundreds of millions of inherited dollars at a time when almost all markets were at low points).
I still contend he has radically underperformed given the inputs. He's a Wharton grad. I would submit that the average Wharton grad of the same vintage as him and given the same free money would have done WAY better than he's done.
shite, he claimed in 2016 to be worth $10B. If that were true (which we know it wasn't), he'd be hard pressed to be worth less than $20B now. How did he conceivably manage to lose money in one of the craziest bull markets (not just in stocks, but in real estate also) of all time?
Why is Ken Griffin worth $40 Billion and Trump only whatever he says he is?
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