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More Small Government Conservatism in Louisiana Legislature
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:36 pm
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Call it whatever you want, it is book banning. It is the practice that one group thinks their moral beliefs trump other people's moral beliefs, when it comes to government entities such as schools and libraries.
Exactly. that's what YOU think. You want your morality to guide spending decisions of local libraries... ones that the legislature probably isn't funding anyways.
Another fine example of government wanting to do the parenting that parents refuse to do.
Teach your kids right from wrong, teach them your moral compass. Don't force big government to do it for everyone, just because you suck as a parent.
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Public and school libraries and possibly their employees would be subject to a state obscenity law under bills filed last week in advance of the March 11 Louisiana legislative session.
State Rep. Josh Carlson, a Republican from Lafayette Parish, and Rep. Beryl Amedée, a Republican representing Terrebonne, Lafourche, Assumption and St. Mary parishes, filed the bills.
Currently, the state obscenity law does not apply to various entities including churches, museums, hospitals and school and public libraries "and persons acting in their capacity as employees or agents of such organizations."
Call it whatever you want, it is book banning. It is the practice that one group thinks their moral beliefs trump other people's moral beliefs, when it comes to government entities such as schools and libraries.
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"Why is a public library exempt from those laws," Carlson said Friday. "I think if we are putting public tax dollars towards libraries I think it’s reasonable, beyond reasonable, to ask that the content being purchased wouldn’t violate obscenity laws."
Exactly. that's what YOU think. You want your morality to guide spending decisions of local libraries... ones that the legislature probably isn't funding anyways.
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The Louisiana Legislature last year adopted legislation suggested and supported by then-Attorney General Jeff Landry, who is now governor, restricting minors' access to sexually explicit materials in public libraries unless the parents have given their children access.
Another fine example of government wanting to do the parenting that parents refuse to do.
Teach your kids right from wrong, teach them your moral compass. Don't force big government to do it for everyone, just because you suck as a parent.
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Call it whatever you want, it is book banning. It is the practice that one group thinks their moral beliefs trump other people's moral beliefs, when it comes to government entities such as schools and libraries.
School libraries have no business carrying books showing sexual acts. Public libraries are a different matter.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:39 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Another fine example of government wanting to do the parenting that parents refuse to do.
I'm ok with porn not being put into kids schools. Go groom elsewhere.
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Teach your kids right from wrong, teach them your moral compass.
I do. I have them in Catholic School.
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Don't force big government to do it for everyone, just because you suck as a parent.
Nah, i acknowledge that there are a lot of lazy arse parents that rely on the school to be the babysitter. Asking the school to not put books on "how to give a blowjob" in the libraries that 1st graders visit isn't a hill too far to ask that the government step in.
Especially considering the state of mental health in this country at this moment.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
If it’s “big government” to think k-8 public school libraries shouldn’t stock gay porn, then I guess I’m a fascist.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:43 pm to Bard
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School libraries have no business carrying books showing sexual acts. Public libraries are a different matter
Do we throw Romeo and Juilet out of the school library?
What about The Canterbury Tales?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
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It is the practice that one group thinks their moral beliefs trump other people's moral beliefs, when it comes to government entities such as schools and libraries.
I am extremely confident that my moral beliefs trump those of the people who want elementary schoolers to have access to books about how to give blowjobs.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:44 pm to BugAC
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I do. I have them in Catholic School.
Good deal.
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Nah, i acknowledge that there are a lot of lazy arse parents that rely on the school to be the babysitter. Asking the school to not put books on "how to give a blowjob" in the libraries that 1st graders visit isn't a hill too far to ask that the government step in.
Why does this matter if your child isn't exposed to this (cause you put them in a Catholic School)
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:45 pm to kingbob
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If it’s “big government” to think k-8 public school libraries shouldn’t stock gay porn, then I guess I’m a fascist.
That's not what this bill calls for, though, is it?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:46 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Do we throw Romeo and Juilet out of the school library?
What about The Canterbury Tales?
Haven't read those in a long time. Though i have no problem with "Gender Queer: A Memoir" being removed any school.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:46 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Do we throw Romeo and Juilet out of the school library?
What about The Canterbury Tales?
Are there pictures and/or graphic illustrations in either showing kids going down on each other?
No.
Next question.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Why does this matter if your child isn't exposed to this
Because i don't want any child to be groomed. It's really that simple.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:48 pm to BugAC
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Haven't read those in a long time. Though i have no problem with "Gender Queer: A Memoir" being removed any school.
Or... hear me out... you can tell your child not to check that book out of the library.
Of if they do, you can return it for them.
I would not let my child read that book.
I'm also not willing to tell a government entity that they can't stock a book that is "obscene", especially since 10 people will have 10 opinons on what is obscene.
What are you going to do when the liberals that run the local library decide that all books that talk about Trump are obscene?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:49 pm to BugAC
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Because i don't want any child to be groomed. It's really that simple.
Checking a book out of a library leads to a child getting groomed? Is that what you think?
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:49 pm to Bard
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Bard
I love the extreme the OP is going to, to try to convince everyone he's right.
Chaucer and Shakespeare aren't in any danger of being removed, and you know it.
And yes, there is a difference between that, and the books being proposed to be banned. Pretending it's the same is just silly.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Do we throw Romeo and Juilet out of the school library?
No. There’s zero graphic sexual imagery in the text of that play with only pg level swashbuckling violence.
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What about The Canterbury Tales?
This is a little more interesting comparison as there’s some pretty sexual content in that one. Personally, I would stock it at high schools but not primary schools. Middle school is debatable.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Checking a book out of a library leads to a child getting groomed?
Sexualizing 6 and 7 year olds...yeah. It does.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:51 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Call it whatever you want, it is book banning.
Good. Keep that shite out of our schools.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Another fine example of government wanting to do the parenting that parents refuse to do.
It's not that they refuse to do the parenting. They want to be able to trust the school to not do stupid shite. You shouldn't have to teach your child not to look at obscene material in the school library. Common sense tells you it has no place there in the first place.
However, I agree that making a law isn't necessarily the correct solution, it's just treating the symptoms. Books don't just show up at the library. The government's responsibility in this is to ensure adequate personnel are in positions that control this type of thing. If you have people in place that not just think it's okay, but actively are getting obscene materials in school libraries, then these people have not been vetted properly and are not fit for this work.
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What are you going to do when the liberals that run the local library decide that all books that talk about Trump are obscene?
This is about public school libraries, not regular public libraries.
Public libraries have age-restricted content already, which is the appropriate way to deal with this. In addition, the parent is usually checking out for the kid, and what their child checks out, the parent can monitor.
Public school libraries do not have age restrictions and are free to be used by any children at that school. Parents are not present in the school library and have no mechanism to know what their kids are checking out. The grades of the school act as age restrictions, so moderating age-appropriate content seems appropriate.
Public libraries should not be engaging in censorship because they are for everyone and have the ability to age-restrict content.
Public school libraries are explicitly for children and their collections are purposefully curated to serve the needs of the students in the age range that school teaches, so being choosy about what one purposefully exposes to children is appropriate.
There’s a big difference between what is acceptable to show on tv in a children’s cartoon like Bluey vs a prime time cartoon like Family Guy which is aimed at adults but kids may end up watching too. The content explicitly for children is held to a higher standard.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/4/24 at 12:58 pm to BugAC
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I love the extreme the OP is going to, to try to convince everyone he's right.
Chaucer and Shakespeare aren't in any danger of being removed, and you know it.
And yes, there is a difference between that, and the books being proposed to be banned. Pretending it's the same is just silly.
You have to realize at this point, if you give liberals an inch, they will take 17 miles.
Considering most librarians are far, far left, they will 100 percent use this to deem just about anything conservative to be "obscene".
These things never, ever, ever work out the way the right thinks they will. It ALWAYS bites them in the rear end.
You do not want to give librarians the chance to deem something as "obscene". Trust me.
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