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re: McMahon has the basketball program poised to make a quantum leap next season

Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by NotaStarGazer
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 12:05 pm to
I didn't cover every combination of overall record, SEC record, NCAA invite, NIT invite, etc. I'll stick with the general 12-6 SEC record. A losing or break even record getting an NCAA tourney invite is the exception not the rule. But yeah, 9-9 or 8-10 record in the SEC is obviously the definition of average or mediocre. LSU MBB should be better than mediocre. Maybe you disagree with that which is fine.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:09 pm to
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A losing or break even record getting an NCAA tourney invite is the exception not the rule.


Not necessarily. Since the 17-18 season the SEC has had a team (sometimes two) finish 9-9 or 8-10 and reach the NCAA Tournament. Every year.

17-18: Alabama (8-10); Texas A&M (9-9)
18-19: Florida (9-9)
20-21: Missouri (9-9)
21-22: LSU (9-9); Alabama (9-9)
22-23: Mississippi St. (8-10), Arkansas (8-10) [both got in ahead of 9-9 Florida and 11-7 Vanderbilt]

Clearly it's not that uncommon. So evaluating whether or not to fire a coach strictly on ONE metric is foolish.
Who had the better season?

Team A: 19-12 (8-10), lost in the Sweet 16
Team B: 18-13 (11-7), failed to reach the NCAA Tournament

Perhaps I'm just weird, but I'm taking Team A even though they finished 3 games worse in SEC play than Team B. Would you fire the coach of Team A in that situation?

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LSU MBB should be better than mediocre.


That is the ultimate goal. But it has to be viewed in context. It would be ridiculous to fire an LSU HC who went, say, 20-11 (10-8), lost in 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament SOLEY because he didn't win 2 more SEC games. If that were the case, Bruce Pearl should have been fired after last season for being "mediocre". Would we all like to see a day where LSU is a Final Four contender every year? Of course! But LSU needs to start being "good" first. And a NCAAT appearance (even with an SEC record below 12-6) would be a "good" step in that direction. If, after 6-7 years LSU is stuck in that same spot then things can be reevaluated. But 12-6 next year or bust? That's absurd.

This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 1:12 pm
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