re: This McMahon vs Wade thing is stupid

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Mays was a sophomore when Wade started. Yes Mays had a subpar freshman year, but it was mostly about layups rimming out. You could definitely see the speed and handles.

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That's convenient.

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He was solid his 2nd year when the game slowed down for him.

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He was better, but he still played out of control way too much IMHO.

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I would credit Wade but I don't recall another player developing under Wade,

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Hell, Reath developed under Wade, much better player his second year.
Tari Eason was a seldom used bench player for a middling Cincinnati team and under WW became a mid-first round pick. I could go on, but our disagreement was as to WW inhereted a talented team....and still you have not convinced me he did.

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And there were other players besides Mays and Reath.

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There were, they just weren't very talented -at least for the level they were playing.