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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:51 am
Posted by bubba102105
Member since Aug 2017
448 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:51 am
Has anyone put in a french drain system using the NDS pipe with the fake rock and sock around it already vs the gravel and pipe? I have about 125-150ft run I need to do. One contractor said he's been using the NDS style with no issues for years. Definitely a cheaper option as well given less labor but want to make sure I get something that will work long term.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2107 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:57 pm to
Eager to know anyone's real-world experience with that NDS "EZ-Drain" stuff.

I hear it's no good for soils with clay and fine silt, and has real problems if you've got a high water table.

A lot of proprietary drain pipe 'advancements' eventually turn into unmitigated shite-shows. Examples include Orangeburg pipe, Infiltrator septic field lines, etc.

I'd approach any proprietary pipe product with caution.


Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
997 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:35 pm to
I’ve heard of some contractors having issues with it floating. I’d stick regular sock pipe and road gravel
Posted by Harlan County USA
Member since Sep 2021
542 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:36 pm to
Just dig a ditch.

We hired a company to dig out behind our retaining wall and put in a system like that with 2 catch basins and two runs of pipe. The issue is my neighbors property is higher ground than mine and alot of water comes off his driveway down my bank and was running over my retaining wall and flooding our yard. The pipe system didn't do shite. The water didn't find it's way into the pipes and nothing pushed it in the direction it should've went. The water went down further behind the wall and was pouring out of the bottom of the wall. I solved all that buy pulling out that crap system and poured me a concrete ditch running to the back of the property.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59615 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:30 am to
I use it all the time but only in certain situations. First question is what is the 125-150ft for? Is it collecting gutters, draining paving areas, draining a low spot, etc.?





Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4974 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:11 am to
I need about 50 foot to install by the side of my home. Water is coming down a hill, about a 5-8 degree slope. Soil is somewhat sandy.

I have some apprehension about this system mentioned in the OP.

Just wondering should go with the traditional method of a French drain system or go with the NDS pipe?

TIA
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3603 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:13 am to
Any flex pipe is garbage. Do it right with perforated pvc, and wrap it with geotex fabric. Corrugated is not durable long term, and will lift or sag as conditions change.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
489 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:21 am to
My limited experience is that French drains are not much use when SoLa days of heavy rain leave water that stands for days. Installed catch basins at two lowest points and ran buried 6" pipe to an adjacent large ditch. Clears the yard very fast...catch basins in lawn are not pretty.

With all drainage solutions you must have some nearby low place to receive the water. Worse scenario is needing a collection area and a sump pump to pump water out to street drains.
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